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CC Phoenix ICE ESCs - 08.08.2009, 02:12 PM

Check 'em out!

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...oenix_ice.html

Welcome to the next generation of Castle air controllers, the Phoenix Ice series.

Phoenix Ice brings the ability to run at input voltages of up to 8S* (33.6) and use the built in switching BEC to output up to 5 amps of servo power all the way up to the 8S max*!

Switching BEC
The Phoenix Ice switching BEC output is factory set to 5.0V. Users may use Castle Link to select their desired voltage between 5.0V and 7.0V, in 0.1V increments.

Data Logging
Ice brings another incredibly useful feature, extensive data logging capabilities. The controllers are able to measure and record many parameters at sample rates that you choose between 10 samples per second and 1 sample per second. Data points include:

* Battery Voltage
* Battery Ripple
* Battery Current
* Controller Temperature
* Controller Input Throttle
* Controller Motor Power Output
* Motor RPM

This data is stored directly in the controller and may be accessed once the run is over using the Castle Link USB adapter (sold separately) and Castle Link software (available free at castlecreations.com). The Max Log Size is 21,504 bytes, everything takes one byte except for motor rpm which takes two.

* Logging 'Battery Current' at only a 1 sample / second - 358 minutes of logging time (almost 6 hrs)
* Logging 'Motor RPM' at only 1 sample / second - 179 minutes of logging time
* Logging everything at only 1 sample / second - 44 minutes of logging time
* Logging everything at 10 samples / second - 4 minutes and 28 seconds

Two versions: Heat Sink 8S max input and Heat Shrink 6S max input
The Ice comes in two versions, standard version which is optimized for demanding RC heli and sport aircraft applications and a Lite version packaged in heat shrink for users with tight fuselages.

All Phoenix Ice are ready to fly out of the bag, no programming is necessary for most aircraft applications. The controllers are set at the factory for Auto Lipo detect/cutoff operation and they are tuned for optimum outrunner performance.

Advanced users will find the incredible programmability of the Phoenix Ice allows for performance characteristics tailored exactly to their desires.

Heli users are raving about the performance of Castle’s programmable helicopter modes which include options to directly enter desired governed headspeeds as numerical values! Every heli power combination requires slightly varying governor gains, Castle makes these easy to tweak and the net result is a rock solid tail.

Designed in Kansas. Components manufactured in the USA, Mexico, and China.

Castle Creations, Inc. warrants this product to be free from manufacturing defects for a period of one year from date of purchase.

*8S rating is for standard Phoenix Ice only. Phoenix Ice Lite has a maximum voltage of 6s.


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08.08.2009, 03:21 PM

i like it! now we need the data logging in the car ESC's too!
   
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08.08.2009, 03:28 PM

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i like it! now we need the data logging in the car ESC's too!
Next generation of car escs will likely have data logging


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Next generation of car escs will likely have data logging
the next generation DOES have data logging. MMP has it. they are incoroporating it into the next MMM revision


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08.08.2009, 03:52 PM

Are you sure about logging in the MMPro? Where did you hear/see that?
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08.08.2009, 05:09 PM

my current car has data loging, (2006 mazdaspeed 6 ) mazda uses it to deny warrentys


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The mmp will not have data logging :(

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08.08.2009, 08:37 PM

Didnt think the MM pro was going to have data logging.... o well


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My MMpro didn't have data logging, but CC says they want to implement it at some point in the future. I'm going to get my car up to 88mph and see if my MMpro has data logging after that


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My MMpro didn't have data logging, but CC says they want to implement it at some point in the future. I'm going to get my car up to 88mph and see if my MMpro has data logging after that
The mmpro has a flux capacitor? I had no idea. Now to find some Ukrainian uranium...
   
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Yup, it has everything but a new xxxxxxxxxxxxxC lipo that can generate the 1.21 jigawatts LOL


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08.10.2009, 03:29 PM

I have those lipos but keep it on the DL. You have to charge them by lighting bolt though as the cost is too astrinomical any other way.


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The mmpro has a flux capacitor? I had no idea. Now to find some Ukrainian uranium...
Hmm, no flux capacitor, but it does have a flux concentrator!


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08.11.2009, 03:52 PM

We are talking about a simple add-on board for the MM/MMM/MMP that will allow data logging. All of those ESCs lack a high-precision current sensor, but a very small add-on board could be made to allow full datalogging. The board would connect between the ESC and the RX, and would be spliced into the negative battery wire.


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08.12.2009, 05:55 AM

a MMM-L version would be nice, with a slight rise in price. I can't see an external add-on board any better than an Eagletree.


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