Electric Cars: The reality

[JThiessen]

Anybody have the theme to X-files handy?!?!?!?

More often than not, conspiracy theories (I KNOW I spelled that wrong) are people's means of explaining things they do not, can not, or refuse to understand. I listen to NASCAR talk radio on SIRIUS, and it always amazes me how many people truely believe that NASCAR itself is manipulating the race finishes and personnell.

Tex, no offense taken in the least, and I was merely putting my opinion on that matter out there. Now that I live in the city, it always amazes me how many very smart people dont understand the ag to store process, and think farmers are out there getting rich.

[redshift]

Originally Posted by JThiessen

Anybody have the theme to X-files handy?!?!?!?

More often than not, conspiracy theories (I KNOW I spelled that wrong) are people's means of explaining things they do not, can not, or refuse to understand.

The truth is out there

Not to be a richard JT, but I'll turn that quote right around... more often than not, not believing in any conspiracy are people's means of explaining away things they do not, can not, or refuse to understand.

For the record, I'm not a UFO chaser...

But I don't engage in group-think either.

Just my opinion guys

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by JThiessen

Now that I live in the city, it always amazes me how many very smart people dont understand the ag to store process, and think farmers are out there getting rich.

That's the truth. I grew up with my dad having a cattle ranch as a side business of sorts. About 200-250 head usually. Being both in the city and country and different times growing up, I got doses of both sides. Early in my adult life I was a butcher for four years, it always amazed me how truly clueless people were about where their food came from. My favorite is how many people would complain about the "red water" in the meat packages and how they did not want it there. When I explained it was blood they would then proceed to ask me why we put it there. Or the old man that would always accuse us of covering up the "brown" ground beef with "red" ground beef. I and others tried to explain the oxygenation process of meat and blood turning red but it failed to make a dent.

[lutach]

One thing that is bugging me is the fact the the first automobiles made were electric. What would have been if they would just keep them that way? My head is hurting from trying to figure out what kind of battery we would have today, specially how the electronic technologies are changing at a faster pace then what the IC technology is. If anyone here has the capabilities to put something together like an estimate number, please do so as my little brain is just about to explode .

[zeropointbug]

JThiessen - There are supposedly ~780 million cars in the world, and what you posted states more NOx pollution than 800 million cars. But then again there are more than 15 container ships in the world, so either one of them is off... or it could just be that the ships have increased in size THAT much over the last 9 years.


Lutach - I know! There were more electrics on the road than gasoline powered at the turn of the 20th century. The baker electric car had a range of 100+ miles and a top speed of 25mph. I too can't even imagine what kind of battery, or more likely exotic power source we would have if electric was the dominating way.

It was all about the Rothschild s, J.P. Morgan, and other powerful families/figures that drastically influenced the course of automotive development (and they were the money changers as well, still controlling from behind the curtain today), as they had all this oil, and nothing to use it in, until gasoline cars were made more convenient than before, as they would have to get out of the car and crank it, not to mention preheating the engine with a fire.

Everything is bull$#!T, seriously, it's all bull$#!T.... almost every sector, every industry, everything is based on a lie.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by zeropointbug

Lutach - I know! There were more electrics on the road than gasoline powered at the turn of the 20th century. The baker electric car had a range of 100+ miles and a top speed of 25mph. I too can't even imagine what kind of battery, or more likely exotic power source we would have if electric was the dominating way.

It was all about the Rothschild s, J.P. Morgan, and other powerful families/figures that drastically influenced the course of automotive development (and they were the money changers as well, still controlling from behind the curtain today), as they had all this oil, and nothing to use it in, until gasoline cars were made more convenient than before, as they would have to get out of the car and crank it, not to mention preheating the engine with a fire.

Everything is bull$#!T, seriously, it's all bull$#!T.... almost every sector, every industry, everything is based on a lie.

You nailed it. A lot of things now are either just to get attention and most important, a lot of money. All of the big corp. companies don't give a flying F. It's sad, but it's the truth.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by lutach

You nailed it. A lot of things now are either just to get attention and most important, a lot of money. All of the big corp. companies don't give a flying F. It's sad, but it's the truth.

Another BS move was GM buying out all the commuter rails then ripping them out. Then they get Congress to use our tax dollars to subsidize road building, where rail lines have to build and maintain their own tracks. Totally unfair adv, skewing the system.

I wonder what we could do if we invested more equally in high speed rail across the country, and took a large number of trucks off the road, freeing up the highways quite a bit. Rail is far more efficient than road travel, and does not pose the traffic hazards cranked out semi drivers do trying to make their delivery times. You need trucks on local routes, but driving a truck from LA to STL @ 60mph (not including rest stops, traffic and sleeping) burning up 10X the amt of fuel seems fraking stupid.

Could replace a lot of air travel as well. They are not as fast as a plane, but you waste so much time at an airport (also taxpayer subsidized), it may balance out quite a bit. The east coast is crowded, but in the midwest and west, you can lay tracks all over the place. 250-300mph on land can get you from NYC to LA pretty fast.

I wonder how much we could reduce FF use just by doing things more sensibly.