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09.15.2009, 06:23 PM

I do not know Kcaz25 from Adam. But I will tell you that someone who has a relationship with God will not be swayed by the arrogance of man. It's not religion or mythical stories like so many who wish to put people like myself down but an interaction on a much deeper and more real/intimate level than can be explained in simple words. It has to be experienced to fully understand and can be experienced by anyone. I have several friends who were Agnostic and Atheist who have seen this for themselves and probably would describe it the best.

I have not watched the video and need not watch the video. I understand the content and the questions. You can question God all you want, I have many times and still do and will until I die. God does not fear your questions nor cater to the whims and thoughts of man.

As the Bible says in James 4:14 "What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes."

I will agree with you that religion is a dangerous thing. However real Christianity has nothing do do with religion but a relationship. The pharisees who had Jesus executed were very religious people.


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09.15.2009, 10:39 PM

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I do not know Kcaz25 from Adam. But I will tell you that someone who has a relationship with God will not be swayed by the arrogance of man. It's not religion or mythical stories like so many who wish to put people like myself down but an interaction on a much deeper and more real/intimate level than can be explained in simple words. It has to be experienced to fully understand and can be experienced by anyone. I have several friends who were Agnostic and Atheist who have seen this for themselves and probably would describe it the best.

I have not watched the video and need not watch the video. I understand the content and the questions. You can question God all you want, I have many times and still do and will until I die. God does not fear your questions nor cater to the whims and thoughts of man.

As the Bible says in James 4:14 "What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes."

I will agree with you that religion is a dangerous thing. However real Christianity has nothing do do with religion but a relationship. The pharisees who had Jesus executed were very religious people.


Just to get this out there, I DO think religion is a dangerous thing, yes, but I do 'believe' in a god force, not A God. I think we are god-manifestation in a physical plane of existence, here to create, live life, and to evolve ourselves to a higher intelligence.

The bible is nothing more than a book of plagiarized work from a quite large time frame thrown into one and changed and raped of meaning to fit the 'times'. You take the present day bible and then look at the old cauldron bible, 20,000+ differences between the two. Well if the bible is the word of God, then why has the 'pure' word been changed so many times?

I have quite a few christian friends, it makes me sick about the stuff they talk about... going to hell, sins, yada yada, and forfeiting their lives to the 'plan of God'. Sitting in church once a week, dressings nice, throwing money at the collector plate, and doing for a MERE couple hours a week and they think they are golden to go to heaven with Jesus. jesus christ.


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09.15.2009, 11:40 PM

oh boy. some of the threads that got ugliest in forum history have been about religion and politics....

i'll jump in (again) only to say that i consider myself somewhat religious, and even more spiritual. i consider myself to be a christian, but also appreciate islam, buddhism, hinduism, taoism, and others. why? because there is one common thread among all of them: better yourself, and love and respect one another. if more people did that, no matter what their religion, the world would be an infinitely better place than it is.

my favorite quote of all time is from gandhi: 'you must be the change you wish to see in the world.'


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'you must be the change you wish to see in the world.'
I like that quote. That is pretty much my life motto.

Agreed though, this thread should never have been made, I should have known what these kinds of topics get to... and not REALLY the place for it I might add.


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oh boy. some of the threads that got ugliest in forum history have been about religion and politics....

i'll jump in (again) only to say that i consider myself somewhat religious, and even more spiritual. i consider myself to be a christian, but also appreciate islam, buddhism, hinduism, taoism, and others. why? because there is one common thread among all of them: better yourself, and love and respect one another. if more people did that, no matter what their religion, the world would be an infinitely better place than it is.

my favorite quote of all time is from gandhi: 'you must be the change you wish to see in the world.'
I am not religious at all (big shocker, huh!) but you have stated a very good solid basic truth that should not be ignored Clod! Good job, and I too wish that this basic understanding would be practiced by more people! The world would be a much better place.

And now back to your regular scheduled whining...

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09.16.2009, 08:09 PM

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i'll jump in (again) only to say that i consider myself somewhat religious, and even more spiritual. i consider myself to be a christian, but also appreciate islam, buddhism, hinduism, taoism, and others. why? because there is one common thread among all of them: better yourself, and love and respect one another. if more people did that, no matter what their religion, the world would be an infinitely better place than it is.

my favorite quote of all time is from gandhi: 'you must be the change you wish to see in the world.'
Well stated Clod.


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