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12.03.2009, 09:17 AM

I think you guys wanting these really low kv motors are not familiar with the way Novak motors like to run. Comparing them to a CC motor, Tekin, or a Neu is kinda irrelevant. Since those are 4 pole motors, and all have much bigger rotors, they require a different setup, and these will never perform similar to them. Since you can figure power as (Torque x rpm's = hp) and we know these are lower torque motors, they need those rpm's to make their power. Also those bigger motors can be very much amp hogs, and require a higher voltage to keep those amps in check, however these motors can hit there max wattage on about 50 amps on 4s. Well within the handling capacity of the motor, and most ESC's.

I take advantage of the small 2 pole rotor, and let them rap out. I've found that Novak motors really like to be up in the higher RPM range, and that they are fine with the 60k rpm range. I know my 4.5 has no problems on 4s, and that's 67,200 rpm's. To get a similar rpm out of a 1800kv you'd have dump 10s into it.

So think of it like this, you would never try to tune a big block, and a tuner motor the same. You use the torque of the big block, and the rpm's on the tuner. Then you wouldn't put the same gearing behind them either. So why try to make a motor something it's not?
   
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12.07.2009, 09:36 AM

Nah, Neu and Neu/Castle have the sensorless down pat. And Tekin seems to have the sensored 1/8th motors covered.
But what I would like to see Novak do is get up off their a$$ and release the Havoc 1s esc! I'm just saying
   
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12.09.2009, 04:15 PM

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Nah, Neu and Neu/Castle have the sensorless down pat. And Tekin seems to have the sensored 1/8th motors covered.
But what I would like to see Novak do is get up off their a$$ and release the Havoc 1s esc! I'm just saying
We started shipping the Havoc 1S to distributors Monday.


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12.09.2009, 05:21 PM

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We started shipping the Havoc 1S to distributors Monday.
Well how nice, I got tired of waiting and being put off and ordered the Havoc spec esc and 17.5 motor combo Sat. from Amain and it arrived today. Great service from Amain but now I guess I'm stuck with an out dated esc!
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12.09.2009, 05:45 PM

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Well how nice, I got tired of waiting and being put off and ordered the Havoc spec esc and 17.5 motor combo Sat. from Amain and it arrived today. Great service from Amain but now I guess I'm stuck with an out dated esc!
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If you haven't hooked it up yet, you can return ithe esc for exchange; but then you have additional shipping expenses. PM me if this is something you want to do, because this exchange is not generally offered.


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12.09.2009, 08:44 PM

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If you haven't hooked it up yet, you can return ithe esc for exchange; but then you have additional shipping expenses. PM me if this is something you want to do, because this exchange is not generally offered.
Great service! Kinda reminds me of another company active here! That is good!

I wish Novak good luck in the 1/8th scale market, but Castle has me sold good atm.
   
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12.10.2009, 07:54 AM

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If you haven't hooked it up yet, you can return ithe esc for exchange; but then you have additional shipping expenses. PM me if this is something you want to do, because this exchange is not generally offered.
I know you trying to be helpful but at this point this only adds to my frustration! For you see not only have I installed the esc but I now find it to be defective. So I hope you can understand that at this point I'm not at all happy with Novak. This is all after waiting for almost a month for the 1s now I must wait again for this to resolved. Doesn't look like there will be much 1/12th scale this season for georgec
   
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12.10.2009, 10:47 PM

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I know you trying to be helpful but at this point this only adds to my frustration! For you see not only have I installed the esc but I now find it to be defective. So I hope you can understand that at this point I'm not at all happy with Novak. This is all after waiting for almost a month for the 1s now I must wait again for this to resolved. Doesn't look like there will be much 1/12th scale this season for georgec
To be honest I must update my last post. As it turns out the esc is not defective. But no where in the instructions for the esc or smart boost that by the way I had to purchase separately in order to to run on 1s liPos. But I digress, no where does it state that in order to run on 1s with the smart boost you must first go into the programing and turn off the LVCO in the esc. This maybe common knowledge to the tech heads of the world but not to a common DA like my self!
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