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01.18.2010, 09:10 PM
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Length is not what you need to be worrying about.
There is no reason you should be wanting a longer spring.
You should also not be running the same weight springs front & rear unless your truck has a perfect 50/50 weight.
I will let you know how you need to setup your suspension
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I appreciate your concern,but I didn't ask for it ?
What you think I "should do" isn't what I want to do.
I drive my Revo like a complete physco on 5s, and I jump the shit out of it.
I have the collars cranked 1/4 of way down w/blue springs with the variable valves. I'm really happy how my erevo handles and I'm always looking to "EXPERIMENT", so the longer springs might do well for me ?
Worst case senerio I wasted 10bucks
It's a excuse to tinker, so no worrys dude. I'm a big kid havin' fun w/my toy trucks ?
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01.18.2010, 10:04 PM
That's cool, I was just trying to help.
You might want to try a stiffer spring, like Purple, since you have the pre-load cranked way down. Like I said, a longer spring of the same weight does absolutely nothing different than the shorter spring of the same weight except stop you from cranking the pre-load so far down.
Pre-load is ONLY for adjusting ride-height, it does not make the springs/suspension stiffer, you need a stiffer spring for that.
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01.18.2010, 10:48 PM
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That's cool, I was just trying to help.
You might want to try a stiffer spring, like Purple, since you have the pre-load cranked way down. Like I said, a longer spring of the same weight does absolutely nothing different than the shorter spring of the same weight except stop you from cranking the pre-load so far down.
Pre-load is ONLY for adjusting ride-height, it does not make the springs/suspension stiffer, you need a stiffer spring for that.
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The preload is not cranked "way down", 1/4 of the threads down at best as mentioned.
Don't want a stiffer spring, thats why I was happy to hear of the double orange at the lb it was.
Fully aware what the pre load is for.
Thanx Sweet cheeks
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01.19.2010, 07:36 PM
Hey guys will the Summit driveshafts fit my E Revo.They share the same suspention arms.
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01.19.2010, 07:43 PM
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Hey guys will the Summit driveshafts fit my E Revo.They share the same suspention arms.
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Yes Sir they will.
Will they be better ?
Thats a question for Mr Crash, he's used them for a while and I beleive he has mixed emotions weither they are better or not.
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01.19.2010, 09:58 PM
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The preload is not cranked "way down", 1/4 of the threads down at best as mentioned.
Don't want a stiffer spring, thats why I was happy to hear of the double orange at the lb it was.
Fully aware what the pre load is for.
Thanx Sweet cheeks
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Dont bash anotha brotha set-up
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01.19.2010, 10:55 PM
Never bashed anything, was trying to help.
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01.19.2010, 11:06 PM
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Never bashed anything, was trying to help.
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I did realize this, I only thought it was kinda presumptious of you to tell what I should do or should not do, Kinda ruffled my feathers a tick but all is well. I appreciate your kindness in trying to help.
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01.19.2010, 11:31 PM
Cool, thanks.
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01.20.2010, 12:23 AM
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Hey guys will the Summit driveshafts fit my E Revo.They share the same suspention arms.
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The Summit shafts are sold complete on ebay only. They are generally sold in pairs of a short one and a long one. You need the long one only. The prices went up as I can see. They are less prone to twisting or snapping but the components wear out quickly and get very sloppy in a short while. I have said it before and will say it again, no matter what shafts you use, they will last much longer if you have a good slipper that is set up right and can take some abuse. Get the aluminum slipper pads from Traxxas when they come out. Aluminum pads will take serious slipping abuse and will not burn out like the stock ones so the slipper can be set much looser which is beneficial to all the drive train's components.
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01.20.2010, 07:21 AM
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but the components wear out quickly and get very sloppy in a short while.
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i beg to differ!!
my summit shafts were installed on the week before you did yours if i remember correctly.
spektrum shows that i have had 50 hours of race time on them and they are showing minimal ware for me.  
i'll have to get the good camera and get you a photo of the ware, there is about 0.5mm of slop on the CVD pins. and IMO a bit of slop dont matter much when you race offroad!
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01.20.2010, 10:10 AM
You're making me realize something important by saying this. I should mention that the second set of Summit shafts I installed seem to be holding on much longer than the first set. They are just starting to get a little slop in them but I also have been running my slipper much looser with more slip than when I was running the first set. I can't believe I over looked this information. But does this mean that the Summit shafts are truly stronger? Maybe, maybe not. I have 8 new stock shafts that came in from ebay last week. When the Summit shafts I am running now wear out too much or break, I will go back to the stock shafts with the same slipper setting and see if the stock shafts give the same performance as the Summits did.
I don't want anyone to believe that I am bashing on the Summit shafts, I like them a lot and I always preferred CV style shafts over U joint shafts. No one should be bashing on any component of the ERBE anyway, the problem is the MMM is too powerful 
Nah! It's not of course but this power must make it hard for manufacturers to come up with parts that will be strong enough to handle the MMM. Let's think of the shafts for a moment, there's a limit to what can be done to make them bullet proof. I mean I can't imagine running some CV style shaft that is one inch in diameter with parts so strong and heavy that a full set of shafts would weight two pounds.
I'm thinking that the slipper is one of the most important device of the ERBE and those aluminum slipper pads is one of the best upgrades I put on my truck.
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01.20.2010, 12:12 PM
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those aluminum slipper pads is one of the best upgrades I put on my truck.
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Mr.C,
I can't seem to find a part number for these, can you assist please ?
Thanks
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01.20.2010, 06:32 PM
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Mr.C,
I can't seem to find a part number for these, can you assist please ?
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he made them...one of the first upgades, should be on the first page.
jokes on me if you were being sarcastic though
crash,
my summit shafts have lasted well but i run my slipper so tight so that it never gets used!!
i compensate with a little punch control but i cant give you any numbers on my MMM settings untill i go and update it again.
IMO a slipper is WASTE of power so you dial in some punch control and hence turn less of your power into friction and heat!
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01.20.2010, 06:36 PM
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he made them...one of the first upgades, should be on the first page.
jokes on me if you were being sarcastic though 
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Jokes on me
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