Ready for the Aftershock? or will it all go away soon?

[rabosi]

Originally Posted by pinkpanda3310

I can appreciate what you've said but it's hard to see past the people we beleive to be in power for the people who really are in power- banks and corporations.

The banks were the the catalyst with there low-doc and no-doc loans and the ceo's of the fortune 500 were the scare mongers that worsened the situation. Money used to be a real item- there was paper and coins. Now it is an idea that the banks create from/with.

The only person who would have the balls or stupidity to re-make the system is first going to have to kick the chair out from under the current system. It might be good for the long term but how long would you expect him to live?

In my part of the world I expect things to steadily regain.

It's true what you say, however the nature of (most) businesses will always be to look out for themselves and screw everything else. We need governments for regulating businesses. So to that end we have to make sure that the people we put in office represent us or else vote them out.
Off topic, how about the term "big government"? Is that bullshit or what? At what point does a government become "big"? What dollar value exactly? People using that term have no idea what they are talking about. If you asked 200 million people to tell you when exactly a government becomes "big". You'll get 200 million different answers. I just wants something efficient that works. (of course also highly subjective).

[zeropointbug]

Unless the whole artificial monetary system crashes and the world governments push a big reset button, things are only going to get worse. Since last year, Obama has doubled the public debt because of his $3.6 trillion budget, that's all the other presidents combined.

If the money changers had their way, we would already have 'Veri-Chips' in us already. It might take a financial melt down for them to bully us into submission.

[Modding_out]

Originally Posted by zeropointbug

If the money changers had their way, we would already have 'Veri-Chips' in us already.

By Then the rapture would have already taken place, Worry about that when half the world goes missing......So you have some time left between now and then.....

[pinkpanda3310]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

It's not the money as much as the stupid handling of money which is the problem. Unfortunately the government and the banks were in bed together for this collapse. They are both running around with bloody hands, one pulled the trigger and the other loaded the gun.

The problem is the stupid handling is still going on. Creating huge deificits to fix debt and financial problems is ignorant of how money works. Mega banks not changing the operating procedures from what landed us in these issues is ignorant of how money works.

Yes that's true but money has a bit of history- google money as debt by John Grignon

Originally Posted by rabosi

It's true what you say, however the nature of (most) businesses will always be to look out for themselves and screw everything else. We need governments for regulating businesses. So to that end we have to make sure that the people we put in office represent us or else vote them out.

We all want a fair and just gov't but they are restricted as to what they can do e.g. the gov't knows the fortune 500 are laundering money for the drug cartell. They won't tell you this because they can't justify/afford the resources to bring this to an end.

So while we criticize and call for a fair and fruitful gov't they're trying to hide their copping it up the back. Who's got the power? Who's got the money? BUSINESS legal or not.