Phoenix ICE HV Car Software

[Finnster]

Can ICE do Ice?


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[whitrzac]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

get to work!!! we want our HV car escs!!!

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by lutach

I only had those made to show the benefits of HV. So I'm taking myself out of this one as I'm also waiting for Castle's HV car controller. When I'm ready to get my own designed car controllers made, then I'll pay Patrick a visit to see if we can work something out.

You are welcome to visit anytime.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by whitrzac

get to work!!! we want our HV car escs!!!

We are getting closer -- extrusions were approved yesterday, and placed on order.








Please note the HV car controller will be OPTO coupled -- no BEC.

[snellemin]

That's good news.

So, a software upgrade only is not possible. Too bad, I have an HV160 that could have been used. Anyway, looking forward to trying one of the new ESC's on a 12S Baja.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

...Please note the HV car controller will be OPTO coupled -- no BEC.

When are you going to make a HV BEC? Would be a shame to have Castle motor and ESC, but have to use another BEC.

Guess I'll be dusting off my Western Robotics HV BEC (60v and 3.5A)...

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by BrianG

When are you going to make a HV BEC? Would be a shame to have Castle motor and ESC, but have to use another BEC.

Guess I'll be dusting off my Western Robotics HV BEC (60v and 3.5A)...

*cough* CCBEC PRO *cough*

[BrianG]

But I thought the CC BEC Pro was only rated for 6s when used in cars according to the manual? I guess I'm assuming the HV ESCs will have electric braking and the spikes they produce. If they don't and mech brakes are used, the voltage limit of the CC BEC is irrelevant.

Speaking of brake spikes; any idea when/if a capacitor/TVS module will be available for sale? I know this was mentioned once before, but haven't heard anything since.

[Thomas Porfert]

You can just tap the BEC Pro off one of the 6s packs..unless you plan on running a 12s cinder block sized battery. The BEC can tap off just one of the battery leads and will only receive 22.2 volts. We have a wiring diagram on the BEC page that covers this.

http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec.html#

It's under CC BEC Resources; CC BEC Multi-pack Installation


It says it's for the regular BEC only, but it will work just fine with the BEC Pro.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by BrianG

But I thought the CC BEC Pro was only rated for 6s when used in cars according to the manual? I guess I'm assuming the HV ESCs will have electric braking and the spikes they produce. If they don't and mech brakes are used, the voltage limit of the CC BEC is irrelevant.

Speaking of brake spikes; any idea when/if a capacitor/TVS module will be available for sale? I know this was mentioned once before, but haven't heard anything since.

True-- but any other BEC will still have the same issues with braking. We just are careful to be conservative with our ratings -- not everyone else is.

On the Cap/TVS module -- I just got samples recently -- but haven't built up the module yet. I'll keep you posted when testing starts.

Thanx!

Patrick

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert

You can just tap the BEC Pro off one of the 6s packs..unless you plan on running a 12s cinder block sized battery. The BEC can tap off just one of the battery leads and will only receive 22.2 volts. We have a wiring diagram on the BEC page that covers this.

http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec.html#

It's under CC BEC Resources; CC BEC Multi-pack Installation


It says it's for the regular BEC only, but it will work just fine with the BEC Pro.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

The only issue with that arrangement is the pack with the BEC will be drained slightly more than the other pack. It won't be a lot to be sure, but if the packs are charged/balanced in series, it can take longer to balance that difference out. Not to mention the LVC is not as accurate.

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

True-- but any other BEC will still have the same issues with braking. We just are careful to be conservative with our ratings -- not everyone else is.

On the Cap/TVS module -- I just got samples recently -- but haven't built up the module yet. I'll keep you posted when testing starts.

Thanx!

Patrick

Yeah, that's true. I had not heard, but I was assuming the lower voltage when used in cars was in fact due to the braking spike.

I presume that adding a few TVS devices would make the CCBEC Pro rated higher when using elec braking in cars?

As far the modules themselves go, I was assuming you would just use whatever TVS you use on the MMM and the caps you use on the MMPro. Of course, higher rated versions would need to be used on the HV ESCs...

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

You are welcome to visit anytime.

Thank you. I hope my design can be built even if it cost more to get done by you. I'll probably just has you do a few thousand units of various sizes and keep them all for myself to see how long it'll take everyone else to come up with the same design . I'll see how this summer will be and if I can take some time off. It's usually the time where I work the most to establish more contracts.

[jocktheglide]

so castle I could buy the phoenix ice 200 and put that in my car with 8s? all for 350 bucks?

How about some pictures of the new extrusions. Any release updates?