feigao motors and different escs in buggies

I have 2 4x4 Slashes, the Maxxslash, and a ST Slash, It's lost quite a bit of weight, and runs a ST body. But 11/54 is the lowest gearing that will fit. I'm sure there's a difference in how it gets ran where, and a Backslash should even be lighter. So those things do play into it.

here again, i'm wondering how much performance difference there is in application buggy to buggy between a neu and a feigao besides a little torque and heat? cause it's definately not in speed.

But heat is speed.

his was 154.5 and mine was 171.7.

What would happen if you were geared for the same temp? Since technically the heat of the motor is what determines what speed the motor can handle. You might be able to get another 10mph out of a Neu, before the temps would be equal. Maybe you could test that next.

an esc that only works a few times before i had to send it back.

See, I don't get this. I bought an original V1, it blew. I got a V2 , it was good till the case came apart, and the board bounced around. I got a V3 as a replacement, and have had no trouble since. Those are the only 2 esc's that I have had fail, in my MT's. On the flip side, I've returned ,IIRC, 4 VXL esc's in for replacement in the same time period .
Of course I run 4s 95% of the time, with BIGGER, BADDER, BATTERIES, remember, they make better brushless bashers. :) , perhaps that plays into it.

like i said..it kinda depends where you wanna roll the dice..on the esc or motor...my money's on the motor for now.

Well let's see how this plays out, before you get your payout. I'm betting by the end of summer, this system is no longer being ran.

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by asheck

But heat is speed. What would happen if you were geared for the same temp? Since technically the heat of the motor is what determines what speed the motor can handle. You might be able to get another 10mph out of a Neu, before the temps would be equal. Maybe you could test that next.

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i agree with you there. the neu will be faster if it can be geared higher for a longer period of time...such as a track for lap times.

however,for high speed runs...there is no short term advantage i can see. the neus are so overpowered, any added power is almost instantly lost in wheel spin...atleast on the lighter cars.

Originally Posted by asheck

See, I don't get this. I bought an original V1, it blew. I got a V2 , it was good till the case came apart, and the board bounced around. I got a V3 as a replacement, and have had no trouble since. Those are the only 2 esc's that I have had fail, in my MT's. On the flip side, I've returned ,IIRC, 4 VXL esc's in for replacement in the same time period .
Of course I run 4s 95% of the time, with BIGGER, BADDER, BATTERIES, remember, they make better brushless bashers. :) , perhaps that plays into it.

i can tell you why...it's how we run. you consistantly run them how they should be. i never did.

it was either for extreme speed or extreme high jumping.

batteries imo never factored into it. i have top of the line packs i use almost as much as my turnigy packs.

in the beginning, i ran for flat out haul ass speed. then after i got tired of that i decided i wanted to bash.

however, am i happy with pretty fast?? nope..gotta be light my ass on fire fast.

same with the jumping...i wasn't happy with racing it, i wanted to launch it over my house a dozen times in a row.


imo, the velineon has taken more abuse than any of the other escs i've owned...and i've owned alot.

Originally Posted by asheck

Well let's see how this plays out, before you get your payout. I'm betting by the end of summer, this system is no longer being ran.

count on it.

[_paralyzed_]

I'm not bashing your setup, Dwight, not by any means. I even agree that the vxl esc has a better publicized track record than the MMM. I personally am still running a V1 MMM. But I didn't mention esc's until this post. I was talking motors.

Asian motors are less efficient due to lesser materials and there simply isn't quality control.

Any American or German made motor is more efficient and more forgiving to setups that aren't ideal. Their increased efficiency equates to longer runtimes, something everybody wants and pays for, and it makes an easier load for esc's. (which you seem to like to break)

I'm a function over form guy and a tight penny pinching scrooge. I personally would never reccomend an asian motor to anyone based on my experiences. That's saying a lot considering they are half the money or less.


I'm glad to hear you finally have a setup you like and can use. I hope it holds up for you. I'll be watching, oh yes.

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

I'm not bashing your setup, Dwight, not by any means. I even agree that the vxl esc has a better publicized track record than the MMM. I personally am still running a V1 MMM. But I didn't mention esc's until this post. I was talking motors.

Asian motors are less efficient due to lesser materials and there simply isn't quality control.

Any American or German made motor is more efficient and more forgiving to setups that aren't ideal. Their increased efficiency equates to longer runtimes, something everybody wants and pays for, and it makes an easier load for esc's. (which you seem to like to break)

I'm a function over form guy and a tight penny pinching scrooge. I personally would never reccomend an asian motor to anyone based on my experiences. That's saying a lot considering they are half the money or less.


I'm glad to hear you finally have a setup you like and can use. I hope it holds up for you. I'll be watching, oh yes.

it's cool, Harold. i've i always said you gotta run whatever blow your hair back.

i seem to be able to make motors last....be it brushed or brushless. i still have my first velineon from a few years ago and stock motors from the 80's that still work like the day i got them. i can honestly say the only motor i've ever burned up (not from over-volting it on purpose cause i've done plenty of those) was a tekin mini rage motor last summer. i've worn plenty of motors out, but i almost never burn them up.

i also like the novak HV's now too.