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2 KiloWatt RACER
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09.20.2010, 11:24 AM
The 1410 motor is what I need!!
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18s4p Raptor 60mph Ebike. 11.5KW
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09.20.2010, 02:28 PM
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Motor and ESC are wired together-no connectors needed
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Thats a quote is from the Tower description.Whats the length of the wire from the ESC to the motor?Will it be possible to just buy the motor?
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8th scale Stunt-Driver/Mechanic
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09.20.2010, 05:31 PM
Yes that motor is probably a Ripper in something like a Rustler... Guess the GF will need some more practice first... LOL
Why is this limited to 2s? just cause its paired with a lower spec'd ESC? Will this be paired with any other Combos?
I bet that motor on 3s is where the fun starts and 4s for just plain silliness... LOL
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RC-Monster Brushless
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09.20.2010, 06:21 PM
Who said it was limited to 2S? http://www.castlecreations.com/products/sidewinder.html
3S for the "existing" 4600, so I'd bet 4S is reasonable for the 3600.
ON EDIT....I didn't see that "The MAN" responded earlier today! OOOPS!!! Guess it is just a 2S system. huh......
Losi 8T 1.0, Savage Flux - XL style, LST XXL, Muggy, 3.3 E-Revo Conversion and sitting outside 425hp, 831 Tq Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel. It SMOKES
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RC-Monster Mod
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09.20.2010, 07:33 PM
I'm guessing thats some roar hang up - I highly doubt Patrick would re-tool/spec for another ESC - My guess is that it is a stock sidewinder and hence 3S capable and 4s abusable (with BEC) like the good old MM days...
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RC carbon junkie
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09.20.2010, 08:16 PM
Really wanna get my hands on 1 of these motors to run in my Hyper 10 SC or Slash 4X4 with a MMP.Need any Beta testers?
SC8-E RCM MMM CC 1717
Slash 4x4 MMP CC SC 2400
SC RC8BE MMP Neu Tekno 1512/2D
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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09.20.2010, 10:01 PM
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Really wanna get my hands on 1 of these motors to run in my Hyper 10 SC or Slash 4X4 with a MMP.Need any Beta testers?
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no kidding  would love to run one in my two kyosho sc's w/ my mmpros! then i could get rid of these crummy roar motors in them. plus i prefer sensorless anyway despite people telling me its better...... whatever. i will take more power any day, my trigger finger does all the smoothin out for me! only place i ever notice it is at super low speeds and my rigs spend very little time in that range.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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09.20.2010, 11:01 PM
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I'm guessing thats some roar hang up - I highly doubt Patrick would re-tool/spec for another ESC - My guess is that it is a stock sidewinder and hence 3S capable and 4s abusable (with BEC) like the good old MM days...
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could also be that the load of the 1410 (essentially a 15 series motor in a smaller can), is a good load on the esc and pushing the voltage would be too much for the esc to handle. Just a guess
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
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09.21.2010, 01:36 AM
Castle dudes
Are there still plans for a sensored 1415/1Y based combo, perhaps matched with an MMP ?
Cheers
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09.21.2010, 10:23 AM
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Castle dudes
Are there still plans for a sensored 1415/1Y based combo, perhaps matched with an MMP ?
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That's actually the next combo to be offered. Sensorless first, then a sensored version.
Sensored isn't really necessary (especially with a good 4 pole motor), and let's us put a longer rotor and stator into the same size motor.
Patrick del Castillo
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09.21.2010, 10:25 AM
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I'm guessing thats some roar hang up - I highly doubt Patrick would re-tool/spec for another ESC - My guess is that it is a stock sidewinder and hence 3S capable and 4s abusable (with BEC) like the good old MM days...
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Actually, no. :)
This is a completely new ESC that happens to fit in the Sidewinder case.
It handles about 50% more power than the original Sidewinder -- but still has a standard linear BEC -- so limited to about 3S on the ESC.
The combo (with 1410 motor) is designed to be ROAR legal for racing on 2S systems. -- We designed the motor specifically to cram as much stator/rotor as possible into the ROAR legal case size.
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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RC-Monster Brushless
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09.21.2010, 10:33 AM
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Yes that motor is probably a Ripper in something like a Rustler... Guess the GF will need some more practice first... LOL
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My 1509/1Y 3600kv was a monster in my Rustler on 2s and scary on 4s. Thats a very potent motor for it size!
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That's actually the next combo to be offered. Sensorless first, then a sensored version.
Sensored isn't really necessary (especially with a good 4 pole motor), and let's us put a longer rotor and stator into the same size motor.
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Patrick, while I agree with whats said, there is a large population of racer that "Must have" the sensored setups. "It's much smoother and more predictable" as they say.
I appreciate all you guys hard work and new offerings!! Thanks!!
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09.21.2010, 10:55 AM
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Patrick, while I agree with whats said, there is a large population of racer that "Must have" the sensored setups. "It's much smoother and more predictable" as they say.
I appreciate all you guys hard work and new offerings!! Thanks!!
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That's just people who believe the propaganda offered by other companies -- sensored/sensorless only makes a difference for the first 1/100th of a second during startup. Once the motor is turning, it makes no difference AT ALL.
Patrick del Castillo
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RC-Monster Brushless
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09.21.2010, 11:14 AM
I try telling them differently that its only on the initial startup and fades out immediately but they don't listen.
Either way, I think this could be a big seller to these guys.
On a side note, any clue on when the big sale will be?
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RC-Monster Mod
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09.21.2010, 11:16 AM
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Actually, no. :)
This is a completely new ESC that happens to fit in the Sidewinder case.
It handles about 50% more power than the original Sidewinder -- but still has a standard linear BEC -- so limited to about 3S on the ESC.
The combo (with 1410 motor) is designe to be ROAR legal for racing on 2S systems. -- We designed the motor specifically to cram as much stator/rotor as possible into the ROAR legal case size.
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Lol oh well...
I guess this must finally be close to the end of the mamba Max then. They have about the same power handling or do
You still have lots of boards, heatsinks and cases?
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