New castle brusless system?

[nitrostarter]

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher

Yes that motor is probably a Ripper in something like a Rustler... Guess the GF will need some more practice first... LOL

My 1509/1Y 3600kv was a monster in my Rustler on 2s and scary on 4s. Thats a very potent motor for it size!

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

That's actually the next combo to be offered. Sensorless first, then a sensored version.

Sensored isn't really necessary (especially with a good 4 pole motor), and let's us put a longer rotor and stator into the same size motor.

Patrick, while I agree with whats said, there is a large population of racer that "Must have" the sensored setups. "It's much smoother and more predictable" as they say.

I appreciate all you guys hard work and new offerings!! Thanks!!

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by nitrostarter

Patrick, while I agree with whats said, there is a large population of racer that "Must have" the sensored setups. "It's much smoother and more predictable" as they say.

I appreciate all you guys hard work and new offerings!! Thanks!!

That's just people who believe the propaganda offered by other companies -- sensored/sensorless only makes a difference for the first 1/100th of a second during startup. Once the motor is turning, it makes no difference AT ALL.

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

That's just people who believe the propaganda offered by other companies -- sensored/sensorless only makes a difference for the first 1/100th of a second during startup. Once the motor is turning, it makes no difference AT ALL.

The truth hurts for some people I guess. Just because it's not a specific "color" or tagged as a "racing" speedo people will believe what they hear. I tend to believe things I can see and feel but racers are fickle and tend to think Equipment makes them better drivers. Props on all the great new products. Can't wait for the new motors.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

That's just people who believe the propaganda offered by other companies -- sensored/sensorless only makes a difference for the first 1/100th of a second during startup. Once the motor is turning, it makes no difference AT ALL.

That's true... somewhat. I've found slow speed control and braking smoother with a sensored setup. To be fair, sensorless algorithms have come a LONG way in just a couple years, and the difference between sensored/sensorless is all but nonexistent for racing, speed runs, etc. But for very low speed control (like when I turn the EPA to 10% when my 2 year old wants to play), that extra smoothness makes quite a difference.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by BrianG

That's true... somewhat. I've found slow speed control and braking smoother with a sensored setup. To be fair, sensorless algorithms have come a LONG way in just a couple years, and the difference between sensored/sensorless is all but nonexistent for racing, speed runs, etc. But for very low speed control (like when I turn the EPA to 10% when my 2 year old wants to play), that extra smoothness makes quite a difference.

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

Well the "racers" must if they all swear by the sensored setups. Sorry for being so blunt but you can tell I'm sick of people coming to me at the track and telling me how much faster and better I could be with a sensored setup when they really have no idea.

[killermmn]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

me,i like the slow speed control!!

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

lol, I suppose the majority of people don't go 2mph on purpose. My girl is not quite 2 and she loves playing with my trucks. Unfortunately, only my Losi Ten-T is the only vehicle (has a Tekin buggy system - sorry Patrick ) I can set to go this slow and have anything close to good startup.

I do use a MMM on a Tekin 1700kv buggy motor on 5s in an Xray truggy to pull my girl around in her wagon (we go for 4-5 mile walks) and startup could be a bit smoother. It's not bad if a goose it, but she doesn't appreciate having to wear a neck brace.