Castle 5th scale

What would happen if I use Deans Ultra Plugs on the ESC and Batteries? I know that they are VERY difficult to solder with Deans, but I'm pretty good at soldering. I've heard that it's okay to use Deans & I've also heard that you can't. Please help!!!....

Originally Posted by jeffbarnum

What would happen if I use Deans Ultra Plugs on the ESC and Batteries? I know that they are VERY difficult to solder with Deans, but I'm pretty good at soldering. I've heard that it's okay to use Deans & I've also heard that you can't. Please help!!!....

I've been using deans and I've had no problems with em, never have.

Originally Posted by Cody.McP

I've been using deans and I've had no problems with em, never have.

Thanks Cody!

Originally Posted by DrKnow65

Cody, any word on your bench testing?

Hi DrKnow, any news from Castle ?

Bye, andrea.

[DrKnow65]

Lots of guys are putting male and female on the batteries/ ESC's, but I much prefer to have females on all the supply side (I.e. Battery wires and ESC output wires) and males on all the the work side (I.e. Motor and Esc power wires). This eliminates the possibility of a short but you have to use a jumper to put packs in series and you have to match color for color to keep polarity correct.

I like using my batts for multiple rc's so I prefer to have a single standard.

Castle uses all males on their motors, and all females at the Esc outputs...

[DwightSchrute]

i'm interested in this esc, but it concerns me about the use of the 8g wire.

I don't know very much about the fundamentals of electronics, so maybe someone could explain it to me.

if the XL is using 8g wire, does the rest of the equipment need it? and if not, why not? isn't the system only as effecient as the smallest awg wire used?

[suicideneil]

One tip I have for putting the shrink tubing on the female bullets is to leave the shrink a little longer, then when you heat it up to shrink it, the tubing curls over the end of the bullet slightly. You can still plug & unplug the male into the female with no problems at all, but it means that if the 2 bullets on the battery should touch, there is no way the metal can actually make contact to create a short circuit. The best analogy I have for this is a bit grim though; think: foreskin...

[DrKnow65]

8 gauge wire supports the maximum amperage the XL will handle, amperage not wattage. The wire you NEED to use has to support the amperage of the system. For example if you use 2000 watts at 29.6v that's 67.5 amps, if you use 2000 watts at 14.8v that's 135 amps. The wire you need for 135 amps is twice the size vs. 67.5 amps...

So the question is what amperage will your specific setup see, and what gauge wire do you need to support that amperage. The beauty of the XL is data logging, it will tell you the amps your pulling :-) From there it's easy :-)

You should be comforted though that most decent batts have large enough wires to match the amperage they can put out. So if the batts can handle the amps for your setup so can their wires.

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by DrKnow65

8 gauge wire supports the maximum amperage the XL will handle, amperage not wattage. The wire you NEED to use has to support the amperage of the system. For example if you use 2000 watts at 29.6v that's 67.5 amps, if you use 2000 watts at 14.8v that's 135 amps. The wire you need for 135 amps is twice the size vs. 67.5 amps...

So the question is what amperage will your specific setup see, and what gauge wire do you need to support that amperage. The beauty of the XL is data logging, it will tell you the amps your pulling :-) From there it's easy :-)

You should be comforted though that most decent batts have large enough wires to match the amperage they can put out. So if the batts can handle the amps for your setup so can their wires.

thanks for the explanation, that makes alot of sense.

I've received the XL just yesterday and soon some photos on Mamba XL Savage setup...

Now just a silly question: why the XL has not a switch on/off button ?

Without switch is not so easy to calibrate the ESC (turn transmitter on; hold at full throttle and then connect the ESC to battery - quite easy if You have three hands...)

Bye, Andrea.

[DrKnow65]

Andrea, the XL has no switch, and yes it's a bit of a task to calibrate it.
I can point out that you are able to lengthen the "beep time" in the settings though :-)
That way you have a moment to pick up the controller after you've plugged in the batts.
For me, I kinda miss having the LED's

>DEANS< my setup pulled a maximum amperage spike of 113 amps, at least for my setup deans would hold up to it without issue.
Check the connectors for heat, if they're cool your likley OK.

I'd like to see some data from one of the guys running the big XL combo motor in a full blown 4X4 1/5's scale though to see what kind of wattage/amperage they are putting down

[FG101C]

The Deans Ultra plug is rated for 60A continuous and 75A burst, with the data logging you will be able to get a good idea of whats going on and if bullets are needed or not.

[DrKnow65]

Wow, I didn't realize the rating was that low.

[bryan]

What is the mounting screw spacing and size on the 2028 motor?

[Arct1k]

4mm on 30mm diam - Mike has a 30mm to 45mm adapater