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Yes 6 Poles 9 slots
there will be also an 18 Slot 6pol Motor called X802
And also delta connected on the 9 slot motor. I have a hard time believing that that motor would work well. Magnetic simulation shows fairly poor performance -- but I don't have measurements on the stator, so it's hard for me to determine if they are doing something odd in the stator to make it work. Copper and magnetic losses are extremely high in my simulation.

Very odd motor design. I'll have to get one for dyno testing. I just have a hard time believing that it would work well... But I've been wrong before about oddball motor designs before -- sometimes really weird designs actually work well.


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01.04.2011, 05:27 PM

We have currently about 6 of those running and they are doing more than well !
Very ESC friendly and

The Test with the CC2200 KV against the 2240/7 same KV running an AE SC8
was a win for the 2240/7 even on 18/46 gearing

in
runtime
temp
power

On MMP

CC 2200
Runtime: ca. 16 min.
ESC ca. 52°
Lipo ca. 41°
Motor ca. 53°

TS 2240/7
Runtime ca. 16 min.
ESC ca. 48°
Lipo ca. 37°
Motor ca. 44°

Lipo Kokam H5 5000 mAh (older one)
Same gearing 16/46

No datalogs yet need to get the Eagle Tree working

We have a very "humpy" track indoor



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i do love Castles products !!! This is not a sales meeting for Tenshock
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Brushless motors have to be green ....

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We have currently about 6 of those running and they are doing more than well !
Very ESC friendly and

The Test with the CC2200 KV against the 2240/7 same KV running an AE SC8
was a win for the 2240/7 even on 18/46 gearing

in
runtime
temp
power

On MMP

CC 2200
Runtime: ca. 16 min.
ESC ca. 52°
Lipo ca. 41°
Motor ca. 53°

TS 2240/7
Runtime ca. 16 min.
ESC ca. 48°
Lipo ca. 37°
Motor ca. 44°

Lipo Kokam H5 5000 mAh (older one)
Same gearing 16/46

No datalogs yet need to get the Eagle Tree working

We have a very "humpy" track indoor

Again,

i do love Castles products !!! This is not a sales meeting for Tenshock
Well, this type of testing doesn't really say anything - - really need to test on a dynamometer to be sure.


The CC/Neu 1515 motor was designed to have as flat an efficiency curve as possible, and peaks at about 90% efficient. It's possible to get more efficiency from the motor, but at the expense of efficiency "flatness." -- in other words, it's possible to make the efficiency curve PEAK higher at a particular point, but at the expense of efficiency at the extremes of the curve.

It's very likely that the two motors have their efficiency peaks at different places -- which would make one motor have better efficiency in one particular setup, and the other motor have better efficiency in another setup.


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01.04.2011, 05:42 PM

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Well, this type of testing doesn't really say anything - - really need to test on a dynamometer to be sure.
I know ! This is just the experience we gained "live"

Same great experience we just gained with the new SCT Sidewinder....


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