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01.06.2011, 02:02 AM

Yah Linc, small motors don't actually have a regulator, and they are single stage, but the effect is the same. They produce an AC waveform (like a real strong hall effect sensor) and you have to rectify it. But the dwell, peaks, and valleys are the same deal. I found this same situation on the Raptor 80 I put togeather for the kids this summer. If you want it to idle correctly it takes a battery.

Some small motors just use a magneto ignition and are completely void of a charging system all togeather, but that's not what you would find on a snowmobile with an electric start...


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01.06.2011, 03:09 AM

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Yah Linc, small motors don't actually have a regulator, and they are single stage, but the effect is the same. They produce an AC waveform (like a real strong hall effect sensor) and you have to rectify it. But the dwell, peaks, and valleys are the same deal. I found this same situation on the Raptor 80 I put togeather for the kids this summer. If you want it to idle correctly it takes a battery.

Some small motors just use a magneto ignition and are completely void of a charging system all togeather, but that's not what you would find on a snowmobile with an electric start...
so there IS a difference in the stators of say a e-start phazer and one that just has a pull start? Looks like ill be trying to source a battery for it somehow....


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01.06.2011, 03:23 AM

I understand how it all works and although the unrectified power would seem to cause a problem it doesn't on anything but the newer engines that are completly computer controlled. the charging system on a riding lawnmower is pretty much the same as the snowmobile (we don't have them down here but we do have See doos and such. Outboard engines use them as well. The question was will it hurt the charging system, the answer is going to be no. Long term damage no. He isn't running it forever without the battery. If he wants to feel better a audio cap around .5 farads or a 1 farad cap would work great and you can get a 1/2 farad for around 15-20 bucks.

I have driven 230 miles after losing a battery that was so shorted that it could not be jumped and the pos terminal had to be removed the jump the car. then left disconnect because it would kill the engine and load the alternator. And that was at night. If he needs to use it He isn't going to kill it that's all I am saying. But if he doesn't have a battery and it does die I hope you carry cables.

Jeff


The Warnings & Cautions discussed in this manual cant cover all possible conditions/situations. It must be understood that common sense and caution are factors which cant be built into this product.

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