American patriots

[snellemin]

It's usually the immigrants that do the low paying jobs that others don't want to do. Or it can be the opposite and it's the immigrant that surpasses the native. You can replace an American engineer, with 3 foreign engineers for the same money. Like it or not current America can't do it without immigrants when it comes down to big money.

You can bully me all you want, I will not bend. That is my nature. Sure there are concequences for my type, but this is who I am. Rules are rules. Rules get broken, rules get inforced and rules can change. Change is what alot of people are afraid off.

I am on your side when it comes to illegal immigrants and those that abuse the system to gain free services. Work for your earnings is my motto.

America is just too big to deal with anything down to the "T". There is not enough money for all that to happen. And you can see that even more now in this recession.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by snellemin

It's usually the immigrants that do the low paying jobs that others don't want to do...

That has been proven to be untrue, especially in this economy where jobs are hard to come by. Really though, it's the companies who hire the illegals that are to blame. They aren't doing it because they can't find anyone to do the job at minimum wage, it's because they can pay under the table and not have to worry about things like benefits, unemployment, etc. In the end, they get to pocket more cash while taking advantage of the illegal situation.

And before anyone says that Americans demand too much pay, I see it this way: If someone is unhappy with their pay, they can go elsewhere, but they should not expect the gov't to support their laziness.

[snellemin]

Originally Posted by BrianG

That has been proven to be untrue, especially in this economy where jobs are hard to come by. Really though, it's the companies who hire the illegals that are to blame. They aren't doing it because they can't find anyone to do the job at minimum wage, it's because they can pay under the table and not have to worry about things like benefits, unemployment, etc. In the end, they get to pocket more cash while taking advantage of the illegal situation.

And before anyone says that Americans demand too much pay, I see it this way: If someone is unhappy with their pay, they can go elsewhere, but they should not expect the gov't to support their laziness.

Brian, I wasn't speaking about illegal workers. I'm talking about what is happening here at my work place. It takes 3 engineers to work on part of a line of products. That line of products equals to 1 million units world wide on average. Lot of money involved. But when you lay off engineers to cut cost, but you still have a product line to get out, you need engineers no matter how you try to slice the bread. One way right now is immigrants.