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04.04.2012, 11:45 PM

Anyone have any experience with Schulz esc's specifically the Future L 40.100. How do they compare to Kontronk esc's, any frequent failures etc? Would this esc be adequate?
I can't find much info on them, do they have a bec like the Kontronik esc's?
   
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Anyone have any experience with Schulz esc's specifically the Future L 40.100. How do they compare to Kontronk esc's, any frequent failures etc? Would this esc be adequate?
I can't find much info on them, do they have a bec like the Kontronik esc's?
Schulze never replaces a burnt esc, they always say it is the users fault, so there is no warranty.

They are good esc's but very expensive, and very very large. Bigger than a deck of cards.

What voltage do you plan on running? I think an IceHV 160 and a pistix will work for you, and cost hundreds less than a schulze or kontronik.


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04.05.2012, 01:48 AM

I'd like to have reverse that's why I'm looking at Kontronok and this Schulz came up for $220, much cheaper than any used Kontronik esc's. I'm running 10s to start.
Do Schulz burn up often? I'm not sure if this 40.100 would be any better than a Kontronik jive 80hv and if it would be up to the task of operating acceleration and braking on this big truck. My biggest concern is the braking amp/voltage spikes regardless of what esc I choose.
The Kontronik esc's are waterproof and hugely underrated plus the built in quality BEC makes them my first choice, I just trying to find a nice jive 120hv for a reasonable price.

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Schulze never replaces a burnt esc, they always say it is the users fault, so there is no warranty.

They are good esc's but very expensive, and very very large. Bigger than a deck of cards.

What voltage do you plan on running? I think an IceHV 160 and a pistix will work for you, and cost hundreds less than a schulze or kontronik.
   
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I'd like to have reverse that's why I'm looking at Kontronok and this Schulz came up for $220, much cheaper than any used Kontronik esc's. I'm running 10s to start.
Do Schulz burn up often? I'm not sure if this 40.100 would be any better than a Kontronik jive 80hv and if it would be up to the task of operating acceleration and braking on this big truck. My biggest concern is the braking amp/voltage spikes regardless of what esc I choose.
The Kontronik esc's are waterproof and hugely underrated plus the built in quality BEC makes them my first choice, I just trying to find a nice jive 120hv for a reasonable price.
No, schulzes are no more prone to burning up than any other esc. The schulze you are looking at is an airplane esc, would require a pistix and does not have reverse.

Are you sure the jive has reverse? That is news to me..


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From the jive manual:

7.1 Auto-Programming-Mode APM (Mode 1) 19
7.2 Glider-Mode (Mode 2) 19
7.3 Motor-Plane/ Boat-Mode (Mode 3) 19
7.4 Heli-Mode (Mode 4) 19
7.5 Competition-Mode (Mode 5) 20
7.6 Car-Mode Race: one direction, proportional brake (Mode 6) 20
7.7 Reverse Motor Rotation (Mode 7) 20
7.8 F3A Motor Plane Mode (Mode 8) 20
7.9 LiPo Mode (Mode 9) 20
7.10 KSA-Mode (Mode 10) 20
7.11 Heli Mode with constant RPM control


The car mode has one direction, jive controllers do not have reverse.


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Hmmm, I must be loosing it. I destinctly remember looking at the manual and under mode 6 instructions there was the race mode and then a couple other
sub options, one of them being forward/reverse with proportional braking.
I wonder if there is a newer or older manual I looked at originally??


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From the jive manual:

7.1 Auto-Programming-Mode APM (Mode 1) 19
7.2 Glider-Mode (Mode 2) 19
7.3 Motor-Plane/ Boat-Mode (Mode 3) 19
7.4 Heli-Mode (Mode 4) 19
7.5 Competition-Mode (Mode 5) 20
7.6 Car-Mode Race: one direction, proportional brake (Mode 6) 20
7.7 Reverse Motor Rotation (Mode 7) 20
7.8 F3A Motor Plane Mode (Mode 8) 20
7.9 LiPo Mode (Mode 9) 20
7.10 KSA-Mode (Mode 10) 20
7.11 Heli Mode with constant RPM control


The car mode has one direction, jive controllers do not have reverse.
   
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04.05.2012, 06:03 AM

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Hmmm, I must be loosing it. I destinctly remember looking at the manual and under mode 6 instructions there was the race mode and then a couple other
sub options, one of them being forward/reverse with proportional braking.
I wonder if there is a newer or older manual I looked at originally??
The other option is to reverse the motor's rotation. The Jazz ESCs is the one that has the option for for/rev w/prop. braking.
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04.05.2012, 05:28 AM

The Schulze L ESC has a car mode and no pistix required. I had the old 40.160 and it was a beast. Not sure how the new ones are built, but the older ones had what it seemed to be a thick copper heat sink in between the PCB. The Schulze L has a larger footprint compared to the Jive. The Jive has a car mode, but I don't think it has reverse. The Schulze L, XL and XXL are all OPTO and you'll need an RX pack or external BEC. Schulze was going to release the M series which was going to have a BEC for their HV units, but they will not be available this year. That cheap Jive 120HV in the other forum is looking good, too bad my 10S ESC is still going strong .
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Btw, where's this cheap jive 120 you speak of? :)

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The Schulze L ESC has a car mode and no pistix required. I had the old 40.160 and it was a beast. Not sure how the new ones are built, but the older ones had what it seemed to be a thick copper heat sink in between the PCB. The Schulze L has a larger footprint compared to the Jive. The Jive has a car mode, but I don't think it has reverse. The Schulze L, XL and XXL are all OPTO and you'll need an RX pack or external BEC. Schulze was going to release the M series which was going to have a BEC for their HV units, but they will not be available this year. That cheap Jive 120HV in the other forum is looking good, too bad my 10S ESC is still going strong .
   
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