Lehner 22 series

[MetalMan]

C.H.U.D. - The larger a motor's rotor is, the more time it will take for it to spool up due to a heavier weight. This is very accurate, as a 400 size motor's rotor will spool up to top RPM MUCH faster than a Lehner 2280's could.

Dafni - I agree, although having the extra available speed is nice sometimes to be able to show off to friends :).

[coolhandcountry]

As soon as the mow down the corn I have 38 acres to run. A little bigger than soccer field. I like to make my own track up. I have to get back to that another day though.

[captain harlock]

You really should not have to get an enormous motor like 2280, but I would rather get the 2240/15 and feed it with enough lipos to take me to the 60+ world. This way you will save weight and money and ofcourse you would have enough room for other things.

[Serum]

Well, the truth is;

They will spin up slower, but the have got a HUGE factor of more torque. You really don't want a motor that size to spin up really fast. But here is my theory;

Due to the mass, they may spin up slower, but that very same mass, makes them also much stronger. It is that particular mass that makes them that strong and heavy.

You don't want a motor to spin up in less than 1 seccond from 0 to 30K (those large motor also need less rpm's, because they have got the torque needed for a larger gearing.) Also; because of this larger gearing, the acceleration with a less fast reving motor can be faster than a fast reving smaller motor, which needs the rpm's to make speed.

All and all, i vote for the large motor vs the small motor, but i simple am not a racer.

@ dafni; i like a truck being fast. 45 mph doesn't push my buttons. you don't need to drive it that fast, it's the huge acceleration and power that makes it lovely to drive. I personally don't get a kick from driving on 14 cells. 16 is net enough for me. It's just the difference of everyone enjoying the hobby his own way.. It's the never ending discussion between die hard bashers and shelve queen builders.. between the 14 vs 20 cells and up setups..

My maxx will be powered with 16 cells, i think it's too pretty to be wasted and trashed with a big ass setup, that's the reason i am planning on buying an easy to maintain/strong stock savage and do a 20 cell rebuild on.. It will be rather light, the extra weight the cells add will be overruled with the power the extra cells give. Like i said, i don't drive tracks.. I am that idiot that needs a HUGE field to enjoy his hobby... driving it on a narrow road also adds a little rush of adrenaline..

[Dafni]

Here we go, Serum.

Originally posted by Serum
@ dafni; i like a truck being fast.

Well, me too.

Originally posted by Serum
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45 mph doesn't push my buttons.

Okay, I see. All power to you, then.

Originally posted by Serum
@ I personally don't get a kick from driving on 14 cells. 16 is net enough for me. It's just the difference of everyone enjoying the hobby his own way.. It's the never ending discussion between die hard bashers and shelve queen builders.. between the 14 vs 20 cells and up setups..

Hey hey, I'm no shelf queen builder. I drive RCs whenever I find the time and the weather allows. Sometimes even when it doesen't.
Me, I like sharp turns and smooth runs better than insane straights. But this could also be because I don't have the $$ for a big Lehner and fat fat Lipos. I always say to myself I can still get something serious when I grow up :D I don't even have a real radio... but I only just started.

Like you said, to each his own, mate.

peace
DAF

[Serum]

A heavy truck needs another handling from the men behind the stick.. ;)

I am that shelve queen builder i'm affraid sometimes..

I'll let you drive with a 20 cell monster when we meet, in Swiss or in Holland..

Perhaps you'll like it.. ;)

[Dafni]

You'll get me addicted, no doubt about it :D

But we'll have to find a track somewhere .... I'm not bad behind the stick, Rene.

And don't get me wrong, I never said I didn't like it, okay!?

[Serum]

No, i know.., you're the last who would say anything bad about anyone or some ones vision Daniel!

I like a car that makes me grin when i punch the throttle... it might be electric, but you sure can hear the power of the truck taking off..

[Dafni]

Sure. I'm still getting used to the 7XL, makes me grin, too. This thing is already very fast for me.

At some spots I drive, even the Titans are fun. btw. And I'm no crawler, either.

[RC-Monster Mike]

We all love the big power. I strap 6s Lipo in when I need the speed rush, but I am admittedly mostly a racer. The 1940 is almost a large as the 7xl, while the 1950 is slightly larger. These are not small motor by any means, and they easily power the trucks. The 22 series is the extreme. It is large and heavy, requiring more work to make it work. I am quite sure these are a heck of a motor, but I would race my 1940 against the larger motors in these vehicles any day. The motor is plenty and I doubt the larger 22 series would provide any performance advantage(actually, a disadvantage due to the weight). They sure do look cool though, and can surely last a lifetime, as they will be on vacation in the e-maxx and savage trucks!
To each their own, though. I know Barry(Promod) strapped one of these motors in his center diffed e-maxx and loved it.

[Serum]

Well Mike, like i said, i don't race.. it's jus the acceleration and the topspeed that does it for me. the 1950 can be powered with lots of cells too... it's a nice 'in the middle' solution....

[coolhandcountry]

Seems me and you serum think very simaliar. I like the big power. I don't race. I like wide open space. I run around sometime slower speed than others. I starting to wonder if 18 cells is enough for me.
Either way you go. If you enjoy what you do. Don't stop. I like the extreme. I can dial it out better than in. If i can run a motor at 30% epa and have a blast so be it. I can't get more than 100% out of the motor though. Just my way of thinking.

[coolhandcountry]

I have question. I found this while reading up on the 22 series.

All motors with the exception of the Basic series have the ability to change winding configurations. It's like having 2 motors in one!

Is that like the back of the 30series motor i posted a pic of. Is the 22 series like that. Can some explain what it does if you wire differently?

[Serum]

Yeah, you can chage the routing of the wires, you can make it a more winding motor.. (stern), star configuration.. only the normal types have got this feature, the HighAmp things don't support it.. (more soldering points = higher lost)

[Dafni]

Coolhand, you know what would be awesome? A big fat oval on your corn field! Only 4 corners to worry about, but lotsa room for your 60 mph beast!