Mamba Monster Vs. Novak Hv Pro

Mgm blows em both away.

i called a few hobbyshops today and they raved about the hv pro because of the smoothness in lowend for racing.

[tc3_racer_001]

personally i like to go fast around a track, not crawling speed! from the videos ive seen of the monster max (version 1 no less) was superb. u could almost crawl a revo with it haha. as long as the batteries can supply the current i dont see how much worse sensorless can be.

[lincpimp]

The novak setup is fine in an 1/8 BUGGY. Enough power on 4s lipo, and it is smooth, due to being sensored.

Not enough power to get a TRUGGY going without overheating though, and that was the point of this thread...

which fiegao xl motor would you reccomend?sorry i am new to this and ask alot of questions before spending money i live in northern california and we dont have alot of resources for this.

Originally Posted by barndog

which fiegao xl motor would you reccomend?sorry i am new to this and ask alot of questions before spending money i live in northern california and we dont have alot of resources for this.

Go with the 9xl for truggy. I tried 8xl before but the 9xl just runs much cooler and has more torque.

[MetalMan]

Originally Posted by coolrunnings

Mgm blows em both away.

Disagreed. I never liked MGM programming, and still don't. But this isn't the place for that discussion.

[macr0w]

Originally Posted by coolrunnings

Mgm blows em both away.

Till it catches on fire and has to be shipped off to the Czech Republic.

They may be ok in a monster truck for bashing but they haven't proven themselves very reliable for 1/8th scale off-road buggy racing. Neither has the Novak to tell the truth.

Wait! neither has the MMM so far!

At least they are in Kansas.

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by coolrunnings

Mgm blows em both away.

I own(ed) both and you are way off on that.

They both have strengths and weaknesses, neither is vastly superior to the other. I do prefer my MMM over the MGM though, as it is easier to program and far smoother. The MGM also still has issues running anything over 4 poles.

The HV pro is yesterday's news in my opinion. They finally add a lipo cut off, two years too late and they have yet to add detailed programming capability and are limited on motor choices and finally don't support over 4s.

The MMM is vastly superior in all ways to the HV pro.

[SpEEdyBL]

I can't wait until my MMM gets here so I can try my Novak HV4.5 motor on it. And btw, I've tried:

Feigao 540 6s
Feigao 380 9t
Feigao 380 12s
Feigao 8xl
Feigao 9L
Kontronik Twist 47
Tekin Redline 632
Novak SS5800
Novak HV4.5

And the Novak motors have proven to be the winners. They seem to be the most efficient of the bunch and have plenty of power. Many people who disagree are gearing them incorrectly, are not using good enough batteries, or are just going by what they hear.

[killjoyken]

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL

And the Novak motors have proven to be the winners. They seem to be the most efficient of the bunch and have plenty of power. Many people who disagree are gearing them incorrectly, are not using good enough batteries, or are just going by what they hear.

My friend and I are both running E-firestorms with the same gearing, but he's running a MM/5700 combo and I'm running a Novak/SS5800 w/sintered rotor. On Orion 3200mah packs we're even, but if we both upgrade to TP 4900mah packs the MM walks away from the Novak like it's standing still. He's got at least 10mph+ on me. I'm guessing it's the ESC. I'll try a MM with the Novak motor and see if it's a closer race.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by killjoyken

My friend and I are both running E-firestorms with the same gearing, but he's running a MM/5700 combo and I'm running a Novak/SS5800 w/sintered rotor. On Orion 3200mah packs we're even, but if we both upgrade to TP 4900mah packs the MM walks away from the Novak like it's standing still. He's got at least 10mph+ on me. I'm guessing it's the ESC. I'll try a MM with the Novak motor and see if it's a closer race.

The ss5800 is rated for 225 watts max. The 3200 packs are good for about 60amps cont, which should be around 400 watts. My guess is that the 5700 can put out more than 400 watts if the battery makes that much difference. The novak motor is smaller...

[MetalMan]

Originally Posted by killjoyken

My friend and I are both running E-firestorms with the same gearing, but he's running a MM/5700 combo and I'm running a Novak/SS5800 w/sintered rotor. On Orion 3200mah packs we're even, but if we both upgrade to TP 4900mah packs the MM walks away from the Novak like it's standing still. He's got at least 10mph+ on me. I'm guessing it's the ESC. I'll try a MM with the Novak motor and see if it's a closer race.

The SS5800 motor was rated without a load. The actual loaded KV is something like 4300 is I recall correctly.

[glassdoctor]

The HV Pro also requires a UBEC, according to Charlie at Novak.

MMM does not, if Castle got it right this time.

[Mozzy]

Originally Posted by glassdoctor

The HV Pro also requires a UBEC, according to Charlie at Novak.

MMM does not, if Castle got it right this time.

sorry, off topic for a brief moment.

GlassDR, what's your CRT go like with the Ne1700kv & with what battery? ie: runtimes & what pinion are you using?

Back to topic...........

I had a MM & toasted it in my CRT with a 4S 6000 & a Neu 2700 running stock 13t pinion.
Sent the MM back & had it repaired for free. Got it at home with the Tekno 1515/2.5D/1700 where I'm not ATM.