Savage or Emaxx?

[Procharged5.0]

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry

The savage takes a little control in the air.
If you get the longer flm extended chassis. it flies much nicer.
Racing I think the emaxx has an advantage.
Bashing I think the savage is tougher.
If I was going to do another truck again. I wouldn't do either.
I like the monster gt by associated.

LeRoy,

Explain this. Why would you choose the MGT?

[Serum]

Yeah, i jsut weighed my gmaxx the other night without the batts, and it's(not very accurate scale i know) about 9lbs, just under. with batts 16 cells its at about 11lbs or so. i need a better scale, but that's not bad at all.

You don't want to bash it. A savage has another advantage over the e-maxx. M4 screws and 4mm hingepins

[Rtsbasic]

Wow, thanks for all the responses. I think I'm going to go with the Savage, and part out my Emaxx.

What do you guys think the weight difference would be? My Emaxx RTR is 11.6lbs. Haven't got a clue what the Savage will be.

Serum, thanks very much for the advice. I have the 2 speed, and I think it may already have the cam-type steering. I'll get the diff housings and cups asap. I won't be purchasing any un-necessary alloy bits for it, don't see the point in them.

Are these the diff cases your referring to?

Your collection of Savages is very impressive, I love the motor mount on your bashing one. Is there any chance you could make one to sell to me? Or even a regular one that isn't so fancy :) So far I'm looking at this conversion, but it leaves the motors up high, and I'm concerned the plate might bend because of that. I can create the battery trays out my Emaxx chassis if I need to. I don't really want to pay $80 for basically a motor plate and a pinion.

What sort of gearing do you think I might need with my 9XL on 14 cells? Currently I only have 2x 18t and 2x 20t mod1 pinions. From the normal clutchbell sizes I think this might be too high?

Thanks for all the input guys, its really appreciated.

[neweuser]

Serum - I'm going with racing it, but i do bash it actually! LOL, it does pretty good if i jack the stance up a tad!! I mostly run high speed though in a football field. By the time i get done, the field looks like it just got played on!
Anyway, depending on the spur gear the savage has, i think those would be fine on 14 cells. the 20 may a bit high though.

[Serum]

You have got a 51T spur i pressume (comes with the .21's and the .25's)

these are the housings i was talking about. if you insist on getting aluminum cups too, get them from 7075 aluminum. The C8019 is tough as nails. (for only 5-6 bucks each)

About gearing;

this might be usefull. Use 1- 1.1V per cell and the wanderer kv-charts to do the math with and you will be pretty close..

[Serum]

For racing with a savage, you are better of with UE shocks and a buggy kind of shocktower.

[neweuser]

I didn't know the UE's would fit properly on a savage, that's interesting! But i suppose with the towers, would work great.

[Serum]

with the right tower, yes.

[Rtsbasic]

The Excel sheet is exactly what I was hoping for, but could never find. Thanks :)

I'll get some of those housings you linked to. Is there a guide on how to shim the Savage diffs somewhere? I'll pick up the hotbodies parts as well, are they a direct fit?

If I run 20/49 on 14 cells, the truck should be topping out around 40mph. Sounds good, but does it sound realistic? I was running 20/51 on my Emaxx with no problems heat wise. The transmission on my Savage spins very free compared to my Emaxx. Hopefully the runtimes will be similar.

Are the stock shocks much good? Do you think it be possible to move my Integy Maxx shocks over to it with a different shock tower? I quite like these shocks, not had a problem with them.

[squeeforever]

You might want to try some LST shocks.

savage all the way, it is a tank of a basher. jump, flip, crash and it will still be going

[squeeforever]

I would go for the Maxx to be honest. Or keep both....

[Rtsbasic]

No pratical reason to keep both, I only race occationally and mostly bash. The 2nd vehicle would always be a bit redundant.

[Rtsbasic]

Thanks to an enlightening discussion with a member here I remebered I still have a "Cold fusion" universal motor plate. Looks like I can mount it to the purple nitro motor plate, and if I switch to a 47t spur, I can just barely run 18/47. Which on 14 cells gives 35mph in 2nd. A bit more would be nice but I can't find a smaller spur, so it'll do for now :)

Wonder if it'll be strong enough. I hope so, I have an emaxx chassis to rip apart for the battery trays..thats all I need to do for my conversion?

[Serum]

Just take stock U profile aluminium, padded with foam, held in place by velcro, it works like a charm. If you use two aluminum instead of plastic braces that hold the skids to the TVP's you can use that to mount the U-profiles on.