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03.12.2008, 12:00 PM

Honest I was IMing with alex at fiegao and he said this which is why i posted the thread... Not sure what it matters...

Even castle get there motors made offshore - Traxxas have no experience in brushless motor design...
   
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Honest I was IMing with alex at fiegao and he said this which is why i posted the thread... Not sure what it matters...

Even castle get there motors made offshore - Traxxas have no experience in brushless motor design...

And I don't think they want to manufacture brushless motors, as the cost would be beyound the market they are targeting.


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I still wondering who made CC motor, In fact i'm pretty sure CC and Tekin are made by the same compagny but not feigao (5 mm shaft down to 3.17 and oversized ball bearing).
   
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I still wondering who made CC motor, In fact i'm pretty sure CC and Tekin are made by the same compagny but not feigao (5 mm shaft down to 3.17 and oversized ball bearing).
I pity tha fool who asks all of these questions!

Sorry, just had an A-Team flashback there, Mister-T!

The CC motor does not seem to be much different to a feigao. I had them both appart next to each other, and the cc motor has a shorter rotor than a S can feigao, and less windings in there, to make room for the solder plate. I feel that the cc motors are good for lightweight vehicles, and touring cars. A heavier vehicle like a pede benifits from a s can feigao, like a 12s on 3s lipo. Then a heavier 4wd vehicle like a crt.5 can do a s can, but for higher speeds and taller tires, a l can works better.
   
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This is only what Ive heard directly from traxxas themselves and from many others. People say that feigao makes 99% of all cheap budget brushless motors out there when in reality its just not true. Why pay a company when you can make your own and sell it for the same price and make much more. After all brushless motors arent hard to make, the only thing that is difficult about making a brushless motor is tunign and tweking it so that it preforms at its best potential. Traxxas has definately gone threw this process and has had a breakthrew. Im betting anyone that feigao doesnt make it because the facts just dont add up IMO. I may be wrong but I doubt it...

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On the other hand i wouldnt doubt that Feigao makes the CM36S series motors because they look alot like feigao's and preform darn near the same to. Its just those minor tweaks and mods that castle asked that company that makes their motors to do to the motors that make them castle specified. Their nothing special IMO.
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Again - I spoke to Feigao re CC motors and they do not make them... Castle also have confirmed this too.
   
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03.12.2008, 08:42 PM

feigaomotor@hotmail.com

IM the guy yourself as you question my integrity

http://www.feigao.com/ - Check out their MSN details...

The guys name is Alex he is very helpful


My 2c on CC - Great product at a great price point with great service - There designed for 2wd rustlers is supporting i would saya majority of 1/8 conversions and runs well beyond spec
My 2c on Traxxas - Great products at a great price point with great service - They have a great intro range of products - They provided my intro to RC and many others I'm sure.

Traxxas opened the door for me on RC, CC brushless and RCM/StampedeProject 1/8 conversions - I'm greatful to all.

For me it is all about inovation - Traxxas innovated and captured a market with the revo - CC did the same with brushless

Traxxas were in catchup mode with the VXL - I hope the MMM will be a lead forward...

Sorry wound up!

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Again - I spoke to Feigao re CC motors and they do not make them... Castle also have confirmed this too.
That was what I thought, in this game of guess CC motor could be made by the factory that make the infamous KB45 XL, be we don't have a name ..
   
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03.12.2008, 09:47 PM

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feigaomotor@hotmail.com

IM the guy yourself as you question my integrity

http://www.feigao.com/ - Check out their MSN details...

The guys name is Alex he is very helpful


My 2c on CC - Great product at a great price point with great service - There designed for 2wd rustlers is supporting i would saya majority of 1/8 conversions and runs well beyond spec
My 2c on Traxxas - Great products at a great price point with great service - They have a great intro range of products - They provided my intro to RC and many others I'm sure.

Traxxas opened the door for me on RC, CC brushless and RCM/StampedeProject 1/8 conversions - I'm greatful to all.

For me it is all about inovation - Traxxas innovated and captured a market with the revo - CC did the same with brushless

Traxxas were in catchup mode with the VXL - I hope the MMM will be a lead forward...

Sorry wound up!

I can't agree with you more about Traxxas and CC! How many people have started with something other than a Traxxas product? I bought a T-maxx2.5R and got hooked, 4 months later a Revo 3.3, now I also have a RC18T, E-Revo(still at least 50% traxxas), new E-maxx, and a Losi slider. The RC18T has a CC BL combo in it that ispired me to do the E-revo with a BL. These are two amazing companies and I really hope the MMM lives up to all the hype and I'd love to see Traxxas introduce their own E-revo possibly with a BL or even a BL E-maxx RTR.
   
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Am I Wrong?
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I realised the screenshot wasn't good so I asked again!

Chris says:
Sorry to do this...
Chris says:
Please could you confirm that you make the traxxas VXL motor
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
it's not your problem.......
Chris says:
but do not make the CC motor...
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
YES.....
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
We are working now to make some higher end motor for large truck.....
Chris says:
OK now my friend has seen it maybe he'll belive me!
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
45mm size motor for 1:8 trucks
Chris says:
5mm shaft please!
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
with higher quality...
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
for sure....
Chris says:
Slotted rotor or 2 pole?
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
it should reach 2KW.....
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
slotless..
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
and 2 pole....
EIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
Slotless motor will have more power...
FEIGAO Brushless-Alex (tradingmate@163.com) says:
slotted motor normally good for on road cars.....
   
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Hopefully this puts it to bed finally!
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Ok ok... You might have proven a valuable point but I gotta say, if Feigao does infact make the Velineon 3500 motor for traxxas then they made one helluva monster!
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Ok ok... You might have proven a valuable point but I gotta say, if Feigao does infact make the Velineon 3500 motor for traxxas then they made one helluva monster!
If you are trying to say that the velineon motor is a monster, then you need to pick up a s can feiago, like a 6 or 7 turn. Those bad boys can pull at least 120 amps when loaded right. The traxxas motor is good for 2wd, but is too small for a 4wd vehicle.
   
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