Novak Brushless Conversion

[MetalMan]

Yep, that's another one (don't know why I didn't think about it). Then there's also Mike's chassis for the CRT.5.

Seems that all chassis designed purely for electric power don't do so well in production... So far Mike's chassis is defying that, and I'm sure it will continue to.

[suicideneil]

If only Tamiya made more 1/10 4wd truggies and buggies and independant suspension 4x4s, that would be ideal. Heck, they only ever made electric vehicles in the past, but they were all aimed at 10 yearold kids like me when I started the hobby with a Madbull. Shame....

[hemi123]

i would have to say yes it will be a hit if they keep the price down. plus its always nice to get everything you need in a all in one kit. i would say that this kit is good for the guy who wants an electric conversion but just isn't to sure of what to get are were to go. plus some people just like the bolt right in kits that don't need you to drill holes in the chassis or find a place to mount a battery.
i wont get ride of the setup i have for the novak hell no mainly because i don't like the dual battery setup. i really have to say that there motor wont be as good as the neu or the frigos.but i do hope that they update there motor an speed controller there both out dated.
i dont think that novak can offer what mgm an neu can just because they would have the price to high for there intended market.

[SpEEdyBL]

The HV4.5 system seems fine to me in my 8ight. It's far better than my mm/fiegao 9L and 8xl setups, which I couldn't stop from overheating. The novak is faster too and doesn't overheat very easily. The only thing I like about the novak conversion is that it wraps around the stator of the motor for the best possible heat transfer. Other than that, it's not versatile at all since you have to run novak motors, and you are forced to place the battery in awkward positions. In the end I chose tyco, which was my first rc car and had no issues whatsoever!

Novak brushless system will not be a hit because you have to use a novak motor and i know that most if us would rather use a nue motor.

[glassdoctor]

Originally Posted by fromdaboz707

Novak brushless system will not be a hit because you have to use a novak motor and i know that most if us would rather use a nue motor.

Or any of a number of other motors

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

Didn't know what to vote for, these conversion aren't going to be that great that there will be classes for 1/8 buggies popping up everywhere. Maybe if you could use another motor apart from the Novak it would be a alright conversion but really if it is the battery tray that makes it popular than the RCPD kits have a much better chance of getting 1/8 class popular than the Novak kits

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

The Novak kits are now in stock in Australian stores and on ebay. If Novak can keep up with the demand of these kits then must say, well done Novak. Sure the layout and the fast that you can only use novak motors is a downside but if it gets alot more people and it will into 1/8 brushless then it is a success. Most people look at getting into it and think it is to dear to go brushless and kits aint that easy to get especially if you don't have the internet. The Novak kits are like $90 and then the HV system at $250 im sure alot more 1/8 bl buggies will be at tracks which is what we want. I have heard of people waiting 3+ months to get their kits from RCPD and the kits from RCM and RCPD ain't at many hobby shops and Novak's will be everywhere which may make this class more popular even if we do run circles around them with the Neu motors

[nativepaul]

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If it is any good it may get electric 1/8th classes set up and encourage others, if however it is slower than nitro and prone to overheating, thousands of people will see it and think that even with BL/LiPo technology electric 1/8th isn't viable, the classes either wont materialize or will be plagued by problems and many that are considering going electric will decide not to, thinking that if the might of novac cant get it right, what chance do they have using parts from smaller company's like RC Monster, castle, mgm and Neu.

It has the potential to be very good for electric 1/8th, or very bad for it, I sure hope the new 540 size HV series is up to the task.

[jhautz]

Originally Posted by nativepaul

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If it is any good it may get electric 1/8th classes set up and encourage others, if however it is slower than nitro and prone to overheating, thousands of people will see it and think that even with BL/LiPo technology electric 1/8th isn't viable, the classes either wont materialize or will be plagued by problems and many that are considering going electric will decide not to, thinking that if the might of novac cant get it right, what chance do they have using parts from smaller company's like RC Monster, castle, mgm and Neu.

It has the potential to be very good for electric 1/8th, or very bad for it, I sure hope the new 540 size HV series is up to the task.

I'm with you on this one. I am very worried that if they are troublesome, it could actually do more damage to the class than the good it could do. Lets keep our fingers crossed that Novak did its homework.

[macr0w]

I hate to say it but Castles not helping that view right now.

I have confidence that they will get the MMM straightened out. (I have bought and burned 2 of them so far)

But right now I'm sure it's killing them as much as it's killing the confidence of all the perspective 1/8th scale electric guys.

I'm new to the 8th scale Brushless/lipo scene. But not new to RCs. Been into them for over 25 years.

I'm going with the whole Novak setup. Why? Cause its a complete solution. I don't have to wonder/worry that I chose an ESC thats compatible with motor x or y, or that it'll fit.

Now with that said, yeah, I hope they did their homework. I plan on racing at our local track against the Nitro 8th scales. There are a few people that are interested and will be watching how well it does. I've got a friend thats a sponsored driver who I'll most likely ask to race it once its set-up so that it has the best chance of making a good showing...

[tc3_racer_001]

just make sure bushy, that you get the best fans you can buy :D

no seriously, i think its a good idea, BUT as mentioned previously, novak is a make or break company. they do it right and everyone benefits (not the nitro companies but who cares about them haha) but if they do mess it up people who see our conversions will just think its a novak and that they sucked/unreliable etc etc...

if they do well, it will bring more people into this hobby imo.

Bushy,
I have the Novak 4.5 in my MP777 and take it to a nitro track. Last night at practice the nitro guys were impressed with it and the buggy was doing a backflip over a jump (mostly due to my poor driving skills).
Make sure to use both fans just to keep temperatures down, honestly the system (unless it is defective) is pretty solid with the 5mm rotor. I was running on an off for an hour yesterday and the motor/esc never got very hot (I did thermal the motor one day when running 30minutes constant in grass).
If you haven't purchased the motor yet I would suggest going with the 5.5 or smaller, my 4.5 has way to much power from a stand still, The nitro track out here is quite large, but unless it is good and wet I cannot give it full throttle most of the time (to much power). I honestly think if I was running the 5.5 or 6.5 I could probably get better lap times just because the wheels would be getting better grip.
In terms of speed my buggy was going 45mpg on the street with bald tires (no grip, sliding all over the place). With some good on-road tires/foams I would probably have been doing 50+ (that is on a 4S setup w/ a 10T pinion).
But honestly, that kind of speed at the track is not needed (anything over 40mph is overkill IMO).

Thanks for the info. Yeah, I'll definitely be running both fans. I'll also examine the fans and if they don't seem durable enough I'll replace them with something else. I've done that already on my GTB system I run in my trf501x.

I ordered the 6.5 motor. So, we'll see. I'm hoping the ESC has enough of a programming profile to allow me to tune the bottom end.

I'm going to go with the Maxamps 8000HV 3S2P 11.1V Pack. Hopefully that will give me the run time I need.

I'm planning on doing some testing first to ensure I don't overheat my set-up and that it'll last the time I need. Then it'll be off to the races!

Originally Posted by cmcclive

Bushy,
I have the Novak 4.5 in my MP777 and take it to a nitro track. Last night at practice the nitro guys were impressed with it and the buggy was doing a backflip over a jump (mostly due to my poor driving skills).
Make sure to use both fans just to keep temperatures down, honestly the system (unless it is defective) is pretty solid with the 5mm rotor. I was running on an off for an hour yesterday and the motor/esc never got very hot (I did thermal the motor one day when running 30minutes constant in grass).
If you haven't purchased the motor yet I would suggest going with the 5.5 or smaller, my 4.5 has way to much power from a stand still, The nitro track out here is quite large, but unless it is good and wet I cannot give it full throttle most of the time (to much power). I honestly think if I was running the 5.5 or 6.5 I could probably get better lap times just because the wheels would be getting better grip.
In terms of speed my buggy was going 45mpg on the street with bald tires (no grip, sliding all over the place). With some good on-road tires/foams I would probably have been doing 50+ (that is on a 4S setup w/ a 10T pinion).
But honestly, that kind of speed at the track is not needed (anything over 40mph is overkill IMO).