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[JERRY2KONE]

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

i've got friends that follow nascar and i just dont get it. F1 i could get into, i wish it were more televised

Well F-1 is surely unique and the drivers have to have a great deal of skill due to the open wheel racing. It is hard to get through a race because if you just touch another vehicle the day is overwith. In NASCAR there is alot more give to the vehicles when it comes to bumpin and grinding. Who wants to put a car on the track worth 1 million $$$$$$$ and have it trashed in 1 second with no chance to recover? The F-1 vehicle is so precise that if you get one scratch on it your done for. The cars are truly a work of art just like a funny car or rail dragster, but not very good for head to head racing.

I am not a fan of the NASCAE short tracks, but racing on the 2 to 2 1/2 mile circuits is pretty intense. When you can run flat out with your foot to the foor at 220 MPH and keep cruising even through the turns that is just way cool. If you have ever driven a vehicle on Daytona, or the Lowes Motor Speedway in Charlotte you will see how cool that can be. If you go to a NASCAR race you can watch the race from anywhere in the track. If you go to an F-1 race there is no place to watch the entire race except from the easy chair watching your TV. I've been to both and frankly watching F-1 is frankly a real let down. Goin to a NASCAR race is so much more fun.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Mister-T

I'm sorry I know it's off topics, but to answer lutach

It was made a compagny called, "Scientific France"

I have found this in my archive (french RC magazine that date back 1995 ...), I'm sorry the first page of the review is missing

Mister-T thanks man. I remember when I saw a Yankee servo in ebay and I lucked out on it. I think those servos are sweet. I will be keeping this thread off topic until the MMM comes out . Thanks again.

[MTBikerTim]

Watching F1 from the chopper camera shots it amazing. The speed at which they accelerate and corner defies the laws of physics.

[JERRY2KONE]

Right you are, hence the only way to truly enjoy F-1 is to be seated comfortably in your easy chair at home watching it on the big screen. Not that there is anything wrong with that! ! ! ! ! BUT I do enjoy going to the track and watching at least one or two races a year, and F-1 racing just cannot provide that for us. There are other events that do like motocross, monster truck, drag racing, and even Xgames. You just cannot watch road racing from the stands and really enjoy it.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Right you are, hence the only way to truly enjoy F-1 is to be seated comfortably in your easy chair at home watching it on the big screen. Not that there is anything wrong with that! ! ! ! ! BUT I do enjoy going to the track and watching at least one or two races a year, and F-1 racing just cannot provide that for us. There are other events that do like motocross, monster truck, drag racing, and even Xgames. You just cannot watch road racing from the stands and really enjoy it.

Sports car racing is fun to watch. I sure hope the famous Group C cars would come back.

[MTBikerTim]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Right you are, hence the only way to truly enjoy F-1 is to be seated comfortably in your easy chair at home watching it on the big screen. Not that there is anything wrong with that! ! ! ! ! BUT I do enjoy going to the track and watching at least one or two races a year, and F-1 racing just cannot provide that for us. There are other events that do like motocross, monster truck, drag racing, and even Xgames. You just cannot watch road racing from the stands and really enjoy it.

No you just need to position your self near one of the big screens at the track .

[JERRY2KONE]

Thats my point. If you cannot sit right next to the big screen and still be somewhat comfortable your screwed. I have tried it several times both in the states and overseas and the feel of F-1 racing is always the same. There is no real comfort zone for watching the race unless you are in a suite with the big screen in front of you. Don't get me wrong I like F-1 as well, but it is just to difficult to actually see the race from the track. That is just the nature of road racing. I have been to dozens of NASCAR events and thr focus of the track owners has always been to try and set up the facilities so that a large % of the fans can see what is going on over the entire track no matter where they sit. Plus at most of the tracks when you get hungry there is no shortage of food stands near by to fee your face, choke down a beer, or even purchase fanatic gear. That is why the sport has become so darned popular.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Thats my point. If you cannot sit right next to the big screen and still be somewhat comfortable your screwed. I have tried it several times both in the states and overseas and the feel of F-1 racing is always the same. There is no real comfort zone for watching the race unless you are in a suite with the big screen in front of you. Don't get me wrong I like F-1 as well, but it is just to difficult to actually see the race from the track. That is just the nature of road racing. I have been to dozens of NASCAR events and thr focus of the track owners has always been to try and set up the facilities so that a large % of the fans can see what is going on over the entire track no matter where they sit. Plus at most of the tracks when you get hungry there is no shortage of food stands near by to fee your face, choke down a beer, or even purchase fanatic gear. That is why the sport has become so darned popular.

You have apoint. F1 is the same, now with all the rules, but the last time I watched F1 it was still exciting. They should bring back the turbo charged engines. I would love to see a F1 go 300mph. I think Nelson Piquet had the fastest speed of over 220mph. I'm not 100% sure, I was just a kid in Brasil going nuts everytime I watched F1.

[DrKnow65]

Let the cars go 230-300, overcoming (ok, battling) the fear of death to go as fast as possible is what made drivers heros. Keep up the safety improvements but let the cars go. Let the pit guys strive for more power, traction, and better drivers. Regulate the lower classes to keep them affordable but let the big dogs RUN!

I personally love road courses, gas, brakes, turn left, turn right, shift, all that good stuff. And give me lots of in-car camera with telemitry and radio chat, less announcers.

[MTBikerTim]

The problem is how do you survive an acident at those sorts of speeds. There will always be accidents and the forces at those speeds even with a glancing blow to the wall are enough to rip the car to peices. Say you loose only a third of your speed in a glancing hit on the wall, that's still 100mph when you are doing 300mph. Even with perfect safety features you are still loosing 100mph in an instant.

[JERRY2KONE]

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim

The problem is how do you survive an acident at those sorts of speeds. There will always be accidents and the forces at those speeds even with a glancing blow to the wall are enough to rip the car to peices. Say you loose only a third of your speed in a glancing hit on the wall, that's still 100mph when you are doing 300mph. Even with perfect safety features you are still loosing 100mph in an instant.

I don't know if you get to see the NASCAR racing down under, but that is why these kinds of racing machines are so important to the automobile industry. They are trying a lot of new things and breaking ground on new safety inovations that are being put into the every day automobiles that we drive. They have been calling it the car of tomorrow because the changes were brought into the sport gradually over the last 24 months, but now it is in full swing for the 2008 season. These cars are built to take those kinds of speeds in an accident, and even help prevent major issues from becomming a huge catastrophy. So do we want to see 230 mph, of course we do. That is just the nature of racing.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim

The problem is how do you survive an acident at those sorts of speeds. There will always be accidents and the forces at those speeds even with a glancing blow to the wall are enough to rip the car to peices. Say you loose only a third of your speed in a glancing hit on the wall, that's still 100mph when you are doing 300mph. Even with perfect safety features you are still loosing 100mph in an instant.

The faster a race car driver drives the more attention he pays and the car is basically glued to the ground with so much down force. I remember when I told my grandfather my kart wasn't fast enough. Well the old guy came to the US and bought a small turbo (He said it was made for Harley) and the mechanic found a way to add it to my kart and let me tell you, it was fantastic to race a 125CC against the big dogs and we had to add a roll cage after I rolled a few times. With the higher speeds one would have to come out with new technologies to keep the cars safer and afterwards that technology would be used in our overweight unsafe road cars. Group C was safe and to see some cars go over 250mph was just amazing.

[_paralyzed_]

nascar announcer: he just made a beuatiful left turn and he's comin' up to a doozy of a left, after that left 3 which is real fast today, only left 4 is faster,

[Sammus]

Wow this has gone a bit OT since last time I saw it... I guess it cant really stay on topic for 31p.

I do have a Q related to the MMM though. I know lipolys are at 4.2V/cell at full charge, and 4.2V is also their CV charge voltage. I think Life cells are 3.6V charge voltage, does this mean that they are 3.6V at full charge? If you want to know what this has to do with anything (or the MMM in particular) being a bit more of a basher at heart, I'm thinking of upgrading my battery systems to A123 cells soon, and was thinking of going from 6s lipo to 7s A123 in my revo... since 6*4.2 = 7*3.6 I'm kind of assuming the MMM should handle it fine... lol the questions kinda hidden in that rant up there... :P

[JERRY2KONE]

Well we had to find something to talk about while waiting for the MMM. One can only say so many times that they wish the MMM was here. Hopefully it will be released soon and you will have the specs that you need to make that decision. Until then anything is pretty much speculation and guess work.