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05.10.2008, 10:15 AM

So what makes it so much better than the rc18 series? Do rc18s tear through diffs like a mini lst?
   
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05.10.2008, 10:29 AM

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So what makes it so much better than the rc18 series? Do rc18s tear through diffs like a mini lst?
Nothing goes thru diffs like a mlst. That truck is worse than a tyco. Unless you leave it stock you will have problems, maybe even if you leave it stock.

I had good success with my rc18ts after shimming the diffs. Not much else needed, as they are quite light weight.
   
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05.10.2008, 10:34 AM

Cool, yeah I was looking at getting a rc18t factory team kit and the mip super diffs and cvds... maybe not the cvds I'm not sure. I'm wary of MIP though, ive had bad experiences with their gear before.

I still don't understand why no third party has bothered releasing steel spider gears for the mlst.. i mean they make steel spur gears... but why? and why has no company released them? is there some technical challenge with gears that small or something? I've half a mind to get a few hundred made up and start my own damn business... Thats the only problem I've found with that truck... those freakin spider gears! :( and I really dont like ball diffs.. which is why i steered clear of the others in the first place
   
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05.10.2008, 12:18 PM

i FINALLY broke a rear lower arms this mourning on my trinity now, its the only thing that has broke or messed up since i built the new chassis, ill stand behind what i said that this truck is tough and really handles well with a new chassis, only gripe i have found on the truck is the open gear diffs, they are tough and handle the brushless no problems but it is hard to get used to cornering with them under power, you kinda gotta point and shoot drive it around the track to be consistant, but hey it doesnt throw parts 24/7 like my mlst and it was alot cheaper.

i have had my eyes on my xray m18t tho just the kit and i could put all my spare electronics in it.......
   
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You guys make me want to buy some mini rcs again, but I have to keep reminding myself why I sold all of them. They may be able to take a beating, but nothing like a savage can handle!
   
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You guys make me want to buy some mini rcs again, but I have to keep reminding myself why I sold all of them. They may be able to take a beating, but nothing like a savage can handle!
Very true but you can buy a vendetta for about $150, bulletproof it for about another $150. Get a Stupidly powerful motor for $70, good esc $75 Flightpower Lipo 3s 1600 mah $50. Less than $500 you have a fast and tough basher.

I totally admit that I really really want an flm savage but:
Savage ss (after selling the motor) $300, FLM chassis $200, MMM + motor $300, Good lipo $250, misc servos etc $150

For that you can get 2 minis and enough lipos that you and a friend could bash for hours on end without having to recharge.

I do understand what you are saying though when all is said and done; when you put a savage next to a mini it is hard to justify the mini.


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05.16.2008, 09:41 AM

So I've had a few recommendations for the rc18 and the xray m18, but I noticed both of these have plastic ring/pinion gear in the front and rear diff... can these really stand up to brushless power? these got eaten so easily in the lst1 that even losi released metal ring/pinion gears. (the same losi who refuse to make steel spider gears for the truck, which would make it 100000x better)
   
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05.16.2008, 11:00 AM

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So I've had a few recommendations for the rc18 and the xray m18, but I noticed both of these have plastic ring/pinion gear in the front and rear diff... can these really stand up to brushless power? these got eaten so easily in the lst1 that even losi released metal ring/pinion gears. (the same losi who refuse to make steel spider gears for the truck, which would make it 100000x better)
These can take the bl power. I have a rc18t with buggy wing like new for sale in a thread on here. Has many many upgrades and with take a beating. (all carbon, RPM, Alloy, MIP rear) Really sweet ride.
Take a look. http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12107
Really like these mini for they are tough and fast, they will literally take off in the air at top speeds.
   
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05.16.2008, 09:49 AM

I ran through probably 20 packs with my RC18T before I stripped a rear diff. I was running a Mamba 6800 system in it using up to 2S Lipo or 8 NiMh cells. I didn't strip it until I started jumping it and landing it on flat ground more often than normal. The diffs are pretty darn tough if you shim them when you get them.
   
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05.17.2008, 07:37 AM

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I ran through probably 20 packs with my RC18T before I stripped a rear diff. I was running a Mamba 6800 system in it using up to 2S Lipo or 8 NiMh cells. I didn't strip it until I started jumping it and landing it on flat ground more often than normal. The diffs are pretty darn tough if you shim them when you get them.
How often is normal? The only reason I have any RCs is for jumping, and although I set up and built landing ramps, there is still the occasional overjump.

It's the landing when the car nosedives mid air and you blip the throttle the level it out that kills the diffs, puts a lot of stress on them, even if its not a flat landing. I'd hate to invest in a new mini to find it not much better.

Has anyone had much experience with the MIP mlst f/r ball diffs? They look plastic in the photo but for $30 I'm assuming its metal. A pity tower doesnt sell them, I can only find them on evilbay, and even then no kind of rebuilt kits (Thrust plates or anything) even... so seems like a no go from the get go.
   
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05.16.2008, 11:02 AM

I never found a need for these but if you feel inclined: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKBC2&P=Z
   
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I never found a need for these but if you feel inclined: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKBC2&P=Z
Yeah theyre not the bits I Was worried about, more the plastic ring and pinion gear...
   
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I never found a need for these but if you feel inclined: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKBC2&P=Z
IMO the MIP Superdiffs are mandatory with a BL /Lipo setup in a RC18
   
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IMO the MIP Superdiffs are mandatory with a BL /Lipo setup in a RC18
I since then ordered the super diffs and the steel diff gears. also have the MIP universals. Will post with an update to let you know how they do. I imagine good because it was fine with the plastics.
   
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I since then ordered the super diffs and the steel diff gears. also have the MIP universals. Will post with an update to let you know how they do. I imagine good because it was fine with the plastics.
I also ran the MIP CVDs which I think you are calling universals, I had issues with the plastic dog bones they would flex too much and pop out. Even with the CVDs I had a few times when they did pop out (I was pretty rough on the RC18). I also experimented with differnt wheel and tire combo's I liked the wheels for the Losi 1/18 scale the best, when I went to the 1/10 scale the performance went down even when I went down to as low as a 10 tooth pinion and I fried a couple of motors( I really likeed the Hyperion over the Mamba)

http://www.b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=db_YC22
   
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