LRP 1/8 brushless stuff!!

[Revracer]

I actually read somewhere that when AE was testing their new E conversions for their RC8s that they used a slightly modified Sphere Comp... That is probably it... Just disabled BEC probably... Haha

Yeah SP has nothing to do with LRP

If any of you guys actually raced you would know this will be worth it. I run 10th touring car, 10th 4wd mod buggy, and 10th mod truck. I run LRP in my cars, I have the new KO/Orion esc in my 4wd buggy, sphere in my truck, and a new 2.0 LPF waiting to be used. All are good escs, sensored wont die any time soon. Its to perfect for racing IMO

Im on the other side of the fence from most guys here, why I dont post much over here. Im a full on race dude, and same with my cars and gear. I know a few here race, but not many

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO

Yeah SP has nothing to do with LRP

If any of you guys actually raced you would know this will be worth it. I run 10th touring car, 10th 4wd mod buggy, and 10th mod truck. I run LRP in my cars, I have the new KO/Orion esc in my 4wd buggy, sphere in my truck, and a new 2.0 LPF waiting to be used. All are good escs, sensored wont die any time soon. Its to perfect for racing IMO

Im on the other side of the fence from most guys here, why I dont post much over here. Im a full on race dude, and same with my cars and gear. I know a few here race, but not many

just curious if you have ran a sensorless brushless system? you seem pretty sold on the sensored option. my guess is you run roar events and 1/10 is pretty much a sensored deal with them. I like to race as much as i can and have used both systems, sensored is a LITTLE smoother for me but if it means using a crappy 2 pole novak style motor, count me out. since i have been racing at my local track at least six people have ditched the novak hv system for a castle one. not trying to pick on your post just curious what sold you on sensored for 1/8 scale racing? and as far as it being good just because its LRP, the proof is in the pudding!

Ive been here longer then you have, and probably into the BL deal longer...

went from the BK and fegaio, NEU, CC, Tekin ETC. Been there, done that. Like I said im a 100% racer, no bashing. I bought the R1PRO to run for 10.5 TC when it came out and it sucked horribly, when your pushing your car hard in the A it just didnt have the smooth no hiccup powerband you need. Why do you think all the tip top guys run sensored, and not sensorless? Tekin came out with the R1PRO and it was a flop, no racers liked it, and they came out with the RSpro. LRP is all sensored, Orion, KO, even hacker has sensored stuff. Tekins new 8th motors are sensored

Novak sensored stuff is junk, especially there ESC, so if thats what gave you a opinion you havent ran a real sensored system IMHO..... you are right, I have NOT ran sensored 8th scale, might be the stupidest thing ever, but with ROAR rules, 4s seems like the standard you could say, im not happy with that, id rather run 6s, lower KV bla bla. The novak HV isnt what im talking about, im talking about 10th scale stuff,

Tekins system seems like the best running deal, 6s sensored racing. IDK whats to go wrong on that one? And dont take this as a flame war or anything, just my opinions as far as RACING. NOT for the most of people into rc who bash

[BL_RV0]

Originally Posted by Marvin

The LRP stuff is all made by Speed Passion (so Hobbywing). Their motors are Feigaos too. If anyone wanted this, they could probably pay 2/3 the amount for the Speed Passion ESC and motor. Not that you'd want to.

Yep, another company relying on uneducated noobs to keep them afloat...

[slimthelineman]

"Ive been here longer then you have, and probably into the BL deal longer..."

Uhhhh ok.... no comment.

all i was trying to get across is tenth scale, is tenth scale, 3-5 lbs 7.5 volts. 1/8 scale is 6-12 lbs 14.8+ volts, two different worlds. i dont think it will work better in 1/8 just because it's the norm in 1/10 racing. just seems like a bias opinion for someone who doesnt run 1/8 scale?

Why do you think all the tip top guys run sensored, and not sensorless?

usually its their sponsors that dictate that:) not to mention the only LEAGAL
sytems are sensored.....
ive tried both (novak, lrp, castle, tekin, mgm) in 1/10 4w mod over the last 4 years racing when i can and the gtb/5.5 always worked best for me.

i guess the only way to find out is for you to run my rc8 with both on 6s and let the laptimes tell all.

I run nitro 8th scale with my buddy. I think 8th scale will work better sensored, how much IDK. Just IMO

Hows about you come out to Lakeport, or NorCal and race, or we can meet up at cap city to do some practicing since they dont race anymore? 8th around here isnt the greatest, but if you have somewhere to run, I can bring the nitro crew over and do some work? But id be happy to show you how my wheeler, and the rest of the cars run. I personally dont have a BL 8th buggy, but have plenty of buddies that do, especially at NorCal, im not Bias, believe me id much rather run HV, and go that way, but for now ROAR isnt doing it

Sorry, but I just dont see people running touring car and swapping to sensorless at this time Im not saying that sensorless 8th scale is bad, its a hell of a lot better then the 10th stuff for racing, but at the same time on dirt traction isnt 99% like onroad is, so maybe... But I will try out the RC8 if you wish =D those are nice buggies! Especially with the wide rear tower

[killajb]

I'm starting to feel like a drama hound.. Admittedly, I love to read the start of a nice flaming session!

I can see some good points to both side though, and not to deter from the issue of LRP bringing a quality product to the market. It seems more like a bit of function or concept debate in my opinion.

I have put my $$ on 6s sensorless systems. ESC's from Lutach, MMM and Sentilion are all working reliably. On the track, I have had problems with the center diff unloading all the "spunk" to the front and not getting good traction until I ease off and try again more gently. I've played around with the MMM settings to get the acceleration curves I wanted, which helps a lot.

With a comparable sensored design, I wonder if there is better control. The key word here is "comparable". I have a Novak SS (considered old-school now lol) in a xx-4 buggy that is geared so as not to bother the esc and it is like a prescision knife around the track. If that kind of control would come with 6s capability and less fuss about gearing then I'm all for it.

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO

I run nitro 8th scale with my buddy. I think 8th scale will work better sensored, how much IDK. Just IMO

Hows about you come out to Lakeport, or NorCal and race, or we can meet up at cap city to do some practicing since they dont race anymore? 8th around here isnt the greatest, but if you have somewhere to run, I can bring the nitro crew over and do some work? But id be happy to show you how my wheeler, and the rest of the cars run. I personally dont have a BL 8th buggy, but have plenty of buddies that do, especially at NorCal, im not Bias, believe me id much rather run HV, and go that way, but for now ROAR isnt doing it

Sorry, but I just dont see people running touring car and swapping to sensorless at this time Im not saying that sensorless 8th scale is bad, its a hell of a lot better then the 10th stuff for racing, but at the same time on dirt traction isnt 99% like onroad is, so maybe... But I will try out the RC8 if you wish =D those are nice buggies! Especially with the wide rear tower

Man! i was just working in san fran a few months ago! went to cap city a couple times but had to cut a deal with the shop guys to only run the 1/8 when the track was empty, so not a whole lot. Word on the touring cars too, my reflexes werent good enough to drive those damn things at speed i can see where the "smooth" would help drasticly in that situation. i think its case dependant at this point. some guys are smooth and others, well.... you know what i mean. im somewhere in the middle, maybee thats why i was impartial to either sensored or sensorless at the time. also i have heard some talk of the truggy tower on the back, is it a legit mod?, should i add it to my frankenbuggy?

also i think roar should have their 4s class, but also have an unlimited class or mod where there arent any voltage or motor restrictions. but i can crap in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills first right?

next time im up north for work we can definately hook up and run somewhere
nothing make me smile like handing my car to someone and watching their reaction when it hits 88 mph and the flux capacitor kicks in......

[slimthelineman]

killajb- everyone loves fire right?

i guess the only way to tell is to run both. im planning on the tekin system right now, but i also have a friend that runs for associated and i will have to talk to him as well about the lrp system. probably go with the cheaper of the two. all i can say is that choices are good and the fact that more manufactures are getting on bourd with 1/8 brushless can only help the class, sensored or not.

[florianz]

I used to have brushed controllers of lrp, the irc, ics stuff, and in my opinion the best and most reliable brushed-esc's to have. as far as I can tell as a "backyard-basher".
nowadays with brushless, what I have read about eg. the A.I. brushless escs (not that excellent), it's a bit sad that lrp is probably not top of the shelf anymore.

reg. the motors, motors always have been manufactured (and developped) by other companies, so thats not new and not a shame.

I think sensored esc's make sense in 1/8, due to the higher rotating masses, it might make it smoother. at least for racer-dudes. once the thing is rolling, it's not a problem.

I'm curious if that little cute sphere will be capable of a 1/8 buggy or even a truggy... if they were close enough to the scene, they would have had enough time to develop a new (6s) esc, but except a few brands, they're all sleeping.they already have the software and know-how, only would have to increase the capacity.

I have a cheapo chinese esc which works flawlessly, except the missing proportional break ... no smoke signs so far, no matter how hard the abuse is.

[Cain]

anyone heard anything about LRP releasing a conversion kit for the buggy? since the buggy appears to be the Z-Car over here from what I have been told, looks like a nice cheap conversion.

anyone got pics of RC Monster's conversion on the Z-Cars?

[Lauri]

Vector8 and SPX8 are available in Europe now. Has anyone had a try? The SPX8 is really small and light (45g). Vector8 has 13mm rotor (not 15-16mm like others) but overall size is the same. Only two different kv versions of them.

Would like to hear how they perform?

[florianz]

regarding the discussion about the motors used by LRP:
they seem to bee exactly the same like the Speed passion ones, at least on older pics they're absolutely the same. On newer pics LRP's motors have fins. Just have a look; and they are produced by feigao. But I hope that at least their esc are developped by themselves.

Originally Posted by jhautz

ESC looks nice and small. Makes it easier to fit in

I was thinking that too until i noticed this...