Turnigy LiFEPO4 packs

[lutach]

If MA couldn't show proof like Castle did of their factory, then how do we pay for what they say? It sounds like MA is just a chop shop that buys the packs assembled from Asia. They claim they build the packs here, but where's the proof. My Dodge RAM 1500 4.9L used to get 50mpg city and 100mpg highway. I have more money than Warren Buffett and Bill Gates combined. I'm not from Brasil. I have a Atomic Battery and a few vehicles have been left on full throttle for months now running a super test, the motors are spinning at 3,000,000rpm and the ESC is putting out 1000A in a tiny packs half the size of a Tekin R1/RS ESC. Speed is unknown, but it looks like 2,000mph. Awesome stuff you know. My teeth were pulled out in favor of diamond ones and I can bite through basically anything. I also have a cure for all the darn viruses and diseases. I'm a great speller without the need of a spelling tool. Also, 1+1=11.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by lutach

If MA couldn't show proof like Castle did of their factory, then how do we pay for what they say? It sounds like MA is just a chop shop that buys the packs assembled from Asia. They claim they build the packs here, but where's the proof. My Dodge RAM 1500 4.9L used to get 50mpg city and 100mpg highway. I have more money than Warren Buffett and Bill Gates combined. I'm not from Brasil. I have a Atomic Battery and a few vehicles have been left on full throttle for months now running a super test, the motors are spinning at 3,000,000rpm and the ESC is putting out 1000A in a tiny packs half the size of a Tekin R1/RS ESC. Speed is unknown, but it looks like 2,000mph. Awesome stuff you know. My teeth were pulled out in favor of diamond ones and I can bite through basically anything. I also have a cure for all the darn viruses and diseases. I'm a great speller without the need of a spelling tool. Also, 1+1=11.

lol, pretty big claims there. Some could be true I suppose. Speed could be 2000mph...in space. The spelling part could easily be true. But 1+1=10 (in binary).

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by lutach

. My teeth were pulled out in favor of diamond ones and I can bite through basically anything. .

Ooohhhh! Our very own walking talking 15 axis NC machine....!

[thzero]

JThiessen, well said. IMO too many people see the prices from "HobbyKing" and automatically assume all other battery vendors are shafting them and absolutely refuse to turn the argument around and say "wait a minute, why are they the only one that is so low"?

Everyone wants to demand accountability from MaxAmps, ThunderPower, SMC (anyone see the latest Epic, cough Trinity, ad that has the red letters SMC throughout their advertisements?), Hyperion (they are in HK), etc. But I've yet to see any call, except my own of course, for "HobbyKing" to be held accountable.

It'd be nice to see for each LiPo back the exact specifications of each cell in the pack. Along with testing methodology and performance charts. Then again, you'd still have to take those with a grain of salt, unless they could be backed up by independent testing, as they'll go through the marketing machine and get fudged anyways.

[BrianG]

lol, it's "vacuum". And no, I don't use spell-checkers.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by BrianG

lol, it's "vacuum". And no, I don't use spell-checkers.

Cool, thanks for the correction. Did you see the stuff in the link. Everything I said is true . I'm wearing my spec ops super strong suit now and will test if by standing in front of a tank's barrel. This paper thin material will stop anything and is supper flexible. I was also able to make a device that stops light and I should be able to make a light saber soon. I have been chewing a gum for the past few months now and it supplies me with everything needed to maintain a balanced diet. Have you seen the hair thin wire that pushes unlimited AMPs through it? Crap, my car just floated away, I forgot to turn the anti gravity module off.

[BrianG]

You must in marketing.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by BrianG

You must in marketing.

This is not lutach, this is his clone. He made a few of us fairly easy. He should be back soon. He said he went to get blasted by his home made tank. Cool tank btw, it turns into a back pack for great mobility.

[V0RT3X]

Did you steal the atomic battery idea from him? Or was it the other way around?

[lutach]

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Originally Posted by V0RT3X

Did you steal the atomic battery idea from him? Or was it the other way around?

That wasn't my idea, it was MA's idea, can you believe that . Hold on......Mr. Tesla just told me I'm a genius too....I can't believe it. This day is going great (Tiger style).

[BrianG]

lutach, by any chance, are you posting all this via a proxy typist from within a nice cushiony room wearing a special restrictive jacket?

[lutach]

Originally Posted by BrianG

lutach, by any chance, are you posting all this via a proxy typist from within a nice cushiony room wearing a special restrictive jacket?

Good one, but no. My laptop reads my mind, I am sitting in my magnetically levitation cushioned chair that lifts me using the iron in my blood and I got on now my UnObtanium super invisible MA style ThermalHydroElectro Dynamic jeans. My clones are walking around naked though. You won't believe what I just found out. My little super set up is running at 99.999% efficiency, but when I put a never ending torch to the motor and heated to 1000C, the efficiency went up to 200%.

[himalaya]

Keep this great thread going on Lutach. I love science fictions but better not from our battery vendors.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by himalaya

Keep this great thread going on Lutach. I love science fictions but better not from our battery vendors.

The places I know that makes lifepo4 cells are having a blast reading there stuff. The place that actually makes the lifepo4 soft prismatic cell that are 2250mAh said they don't have many rejects and there's no such thing as "top grade cells or Seconds and Thirds". If there was, they would have to stop production. Quality in Asia is changing or should I say, "has changed". You probably know this as well, you're closer to the factories than I am. As for as I know this 25C or 30C lifepo4 cell is not fully mature. There are other capacity as well ranging from: 1100-3600 for 25C and 1900-3600 for 30C. As for lipos, I know for a fact that 25C is mature and anything above it has not fully matured yet, but are showing good results. To be honest, I could've been making some nice change if I sold lipos or lifepo4 at the same price as Hobbycity, but the liability batteries have are very high.

[himalaya]

Here in China soft pack LiFePO4 cells has been around for some time, I would say two years at least. Due to its higher IR and the long exsisting superstition to "genuine" A123 cells, they are not selling too well in RC market, but it's pretty successful in electric bikes. Bigger steel case cells for automotive use has also came out.

I have to agree with you that Chinese products quality has been tremendously improved. I still rememeber when I was around 10 years old making my first 6-transistor radio I have to scratch all transistor legs with a knife to get them solderable, now my company has automatic pick&place machine and multi-temp-zone reflow soldering oven making BEAUTIFUL PCB assemblies.

One of my friends is a competitive RC boater, he spoke to a LiPo factory to get the finest cells to win the game. What he was told is they do "filter" their products to several grades, usually called A, B1 and B2. 5Ah 28C cell as an exmaple, they draw a line at 1.9mOhms. In other words, You may get a 1.8mOhms cell with twice the price of a 1.9mOhms cell. There are difference between A and B grades but not heaven to earth, if there are such huge diversity, the production line MUST be stopped to check what has gone wrong.