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08.13.2010, 07:03 PM

Well is a marginally faster motor - so on 4s it will be slightly quicker and you probably won't notice any torque difference as its still a fine motor I'm sure.

However you can't do 6S or 5S without invalidating your warranty which is where the MMM / 2200 will win.
   
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08.14.2010, 01:32 PM

Fwiw, look at the diff in motor kvs 2200 at 14.8v = 32560rpm, 2350kv => 34780rpm, using BG's gearing calc (after verifying it reproduces the 42mph on 4S for a 2200) this diff in RPM nets the 2350 Flux an additional 2.9mph mph, 44.9 vs 42.0mph for the Flux HP. I know my Flux will pull the gearing, my gps says it does. I asume 2350 will also.

If you bump HP to 5S, it runs away from a 2350 at 53mph per BG's calculator.
   
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08.14.2010, 03:27 PM

I have mixed feelings on HPI doing this and obviously of there are issues I would assume HPI has been warned and it's in there hands.

It's okay I guess for someone who wants a light basher for under 500 but I just see too many potential issues. Given all the newbs who burnt up their MMM's in the original flux this just gives me warning bells.

Maybe there is something I don't know here but I would opt to the MMM/2200 for sure. I would even go for something like a Holmes ESC (which castle makes) running a 775 on 6s over the MMP on 4s with the given motor.

In fact I have been thinking about a waterproof revo with that setup as well since JRH will sell the ESC waterproofed as well.

I have faith in castle, just not in newbs.


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08.14.2010, 05:01 PM

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I have mixed feelings on HPI doing this and obviously of there are issues I would assume HPI has been warned and it's in there hands.

It's okay I guess for someone who wants a light basher for under 500 but I just see too many potential issues. Given all the newbs who burnt up their MMM's in the original flux this just gives me warning bells.

Maybe there is something I don't know here but I would opt to the MMM/2200 for sure. I would even go for something like a Holmes ESC (which castle makes) running a 775 on 6s over the MMP on 4s with the given motor.

In fact I have been thinking about a waterproof revo with that setup as well since JRH will sell the ESC waterproofed as well.

I have faith in castle, just not in newbs.
Actually, it's a pretty good setup. The MMP is really good at protecting itself -- better than the earlier MMM was. :)

And if you limit to 4 cells, no issues at all.


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08.14.2010, 05:38 PM

Well, I haven't pushed the MMP seeing as it's in my Losi Comp Crawler running a cough novak cough motor. Hey the sensored really helps in a crawler.

What do you think about running the Holmes Torquemaster on 6s with a 775?


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09.09.2010, 06:01 PM

I had a random thought, will the Castle link or field link work with this rebadged ESC? That would also be a big determining factor I think for peeps. Does the sensor port even work also?
   
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09.09.2010, 06:15 PM

I've never used these series sizes , only ever used kv and diameter and length to spec motors.

What do these terms 1517 , 1717, 1512, ect mean?
What dimensions is the 2350 HPI motor? or what size is 1517?

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09.09.2010, 06:37 PM

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I've never used these series sizes , only ever used kv and diameter and length to spec motors.

What do these terms 1517 , 1717, 1512, ect mean?
What dimensions is the 2350 HPI motor? or what size is 1517?

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It's simply the classification of Castles different motors for different applications

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...le_motors.html
   
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09.09.2010, 06:45 PM

I looked at that chart , so the numbers don't actually mean anything (having to do with size)?

I'm still wondering what size the 2350 is.
   
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09.09.2010, 06:51 PM

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I looked at that chart , so the numbers don't actually mean anything (having to do with size)?

I'm still wondering what size the 2350 is.

Patrick already stated this earlier. Its a 2350kv rated, specially modified 1517 model for HPI

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The ESC is a Mamba Max Pro, HPI special version.

The motor is a low-cost version 1517. (a few changes from the standard version to make it much lower cost to produce.)

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09.09.2010, 08:42 PM

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Patrick already stated this earlier. Its a 2350kv rated, specially modified 1517 model for HPI
patrick

will you guys be selling this new motor too?

it sounds like a great motor for us top speed guys


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......maybe they want to be more like novak
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09.09.2010, 08:57 PM

If you want some more info, pick up the Nov issue of RC Driver, they have reviewed the 2350 in it. I just got it in my mailbox today and after reading it I can confirm:

1. The 2350kv rated motor will indeed go a little faster then the HP's 2200kv in 4s in stock truck form, around 47mph vs 42mph
2. The Q-base ESC is compatible with the Castle link and field link programming card
3. The chassis all around is exactly the same as the HP


   
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09.14.2010, 08:35 PM

I also got my recent Xtreme RC mag and they also had a good review on it as well. Top speed for them was around 43mph

   
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09.09.2010, 07:02 PM

Ok, I'll bite. What size is a 1517 please?
   
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09.09.2010, 07:07 PM

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Ok, I'll bite. What size is a 1517 please?
That I don't know as its custom made for HPI and not shown on their website, you'll have to ask Patrick.
   
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