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08.13.2010, 03:50 PM
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I really like that the Q-base has all solder post connections. I wish the MMP was available in this configuration. It's nice to have the motor solder posts on the MMP 1-cell, but then you give up the fan and internal BEC, and the battery wires are still soldered to the board.
Is there any way to buy the Q-base as a stand-alone item? Contact HPI? Or look at the RC "chop shops" on Ebay?
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I believe HPI will be selling the Q-base as a stand-alone product.
Thanx!
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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08.13.2010, 05:24 PM
So given a bone stock Flux HP and Flux 2350 with the exact same 4S lipo's installed in both and ran them side by side, what would we be looking at as far as performance comparison?
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08.13.2010, 05:27 PM
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So given a bone stock Flux HP and Flux 2350 with the exact same 4S lipo's installed in both and ran them side by side, what would we be looking at as far as performance comparison?
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Really a question for HPI -- I don't know... I've never driven a Flux with the 2350 motor in it. :)
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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08.13.2010, 07:03 PM
Well is a marginally faster motor - so on 4s it will be slightly quicker and you probably won't notice any torque difference as its still a fine motor I'm sure.
However you can't do 6S or 5S without invalidating your warranty which is where the MMM / 2200 will win.
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08.14.2010, 01:32 PM
Fwiw, look at the diff in motor kvs 2200 at 14.8v = 32560rpm, 2350kv => 34780rpm, using BG's gearing calc (after verifying it reproduces the 42mph on 4S for a 2200) this diff in RPM nets the 2350 Flux an additional 2.9mph mph, 44.9 vs 42.0mph for the Flux HP. I know my Flux will pull the gearing, my gps says it does. I asume 2350 will also.
If you bump HP to 5S, it runs away from a 2350 at 53mph per BG's calculator.
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08.14.2010, 03:27 PM
I have mixed feelings on HPI doing this and obviously of there are issues I would assume HPI has been warned and it's in there hands.
It's okay I guess for someone who wants a light basher for under 500 but I just see too many potential issues. Given all the newbs who burnt up their MMM's in the original flux this just gives me warning bells.
Maybe there is something I don't know here but I would opt to the MMM/2200 for sure. I would even go for something like a Holmes ESC (which castle makes) running a 775 on 6s over the MMP on 4s with the given motor.
In fact I have been thinking about a waterproof revo with that setup as well since JRH will sell the ESC waterproofed as well.
I have faith in castle, just not in newbs.
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08.14.2010, 05:01 PM
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I have mixed feelings on HPI doing this and obviously of there are issues I would assume HPI has been warned and it's in there hands.
It's okay I guess for someone who wants a light basher for under 500 but I just see too many potential issues. Given all the newbs who burnt up their MMM's in the original flux this just gives me warning bells.
Maybe there is something I don't know here but I would opt to the MMM/2200 for sure. I would even go for something like a Holmes ESC (which castle makes) running a 775 on 6s over the MMP on 4s with the given motor.
In fact I have been thinking about a waterproof revo with that setup as well since JRH will sell the ESC waterproofed as well.
I have faith in castle, just not in newbs.
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Actually, it's a pretty good setup. The MMP is really good at protecting itself -- better than the earlier MMM was. :)
And if you limit to 4 cells, no issues at all.
Patrick del Castillo
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08.14.2010, 05:38 PM
Well, I haven't pushed the MMP seeing as it's in my Losi Comp Crawler running a cough novak cough motor. Hey the sensored really helps in a crawler.
What do you think about running the Holmes Torquemaster on 6s with a 775?
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09.09.2010, 06:01 PM
I had a random thought, will the Castle link or field link work with this rebadged ESC? That would also be a big determining factor I think for peeps. Does the sensor port even work also?
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09.09.2010, 06:15 PM
I've never used these series sizes , only ever used kv and diameter and length to spec motors.
What do these terms 1517 , 1717, 1512, ect mean?
What dimensions is the 2350 HPI motor? or what size is 1517?
Thanks.
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09.09.2010, 06:37 PM
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I've never used these series sizes , only ever used kv and diameter and length to spec motors.
What do these terms 1517 , 1717, 1512, ect mean?
What dimensions is the 2350 HPI motor? or what size is 1517?
Thanks.
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It's simply the classification of Castles different motors for different applications
http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...le_motors.html
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09.09.2010, 06:45 PM
I looked at that chart , so the numbers don't actually mean anything (having to do with size)?
I'm still wondering what size the 2350 is.
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09.09.2010, 06:51 PM
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I looked at that chart , so the numbers don't actually mean anything (having to do with size)?
I'm still wondering what size the 2350 is.
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Patrick already stated this earlier. Its a 2350kv rated, specially modified 1517 model for HPI
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The ESC is a Mamba Max Pro, HPI special version.
The motor is a low-cost version 1517. (a few changes from the standard version to make it much lower cost to produce.)
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09.09.2010, 07:02 PM
Ok, I'll bite. What size is a 1517 please?
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09.09.2010, 07:07 PM
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Ok, I'll bite. What size is a 1517 please?
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That I don't know as its custom made for HPI and not shown on their website, you'll have to ask Patrick.
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