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I agree with SPC, comments on this are a bit over the top. Jesus, it says 9+ DOE. More than fast food, and its a job! To the 8.5% of unemployed people in washington, it's a job. What do you expect? 100K/year with benefits to assemble packs? It's shit like this makes everything in this country move overseas and stuff that's actually still made here cost 500 times more than it should. People need to drop this sense of entitlement and come to terms with reality, or continue to hand over our status to China. Kind of off topic, should never have been brought up, but at least they are hiring. Unfortunately, they aren't going to get my business anymore in spite of everything I just stated. I'm sure they could be competitive and honest and cut their prices and costs on advertising and reflect that in their product but why? Whatever they're doing is working and there is too much money being made now to turn back. When it all catches up to them, they'll be under.
   
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I agree with SPC, comments on this are a bit over the top. Jesus, it says 9+ DOE. More than fast food, and its a job! To the 8.5% of unemployed people in washington, it's a job. What do you expect? 100K/year with benefits to assemble packs? It's shit like this makes everything in this country move overseas and stuff that's actually still made here cost 500 times more than it should. People need to drop this sense of entitlement and come to terms with reality, or continue to hand over our status to China. Kind of off topic, should never have been brought up, but at least they are hiring. Unfortunately, they aren't going to get my business anymore in spite of everything I just stated. I'm sure they could be competitive and honest and cut their prices and costs on advertising and reflect that in their product but why? Whatever they're doing is working and there is too much money being made now to turn back. When it all catches up to them, they'll be under.
Minimum wage here is $8.67/hour. And yeah it says $9 DOE but nobody will get hired at anything above 9. Most places now will train people with no experience before they will hire an experienced worker....just so they can pay less. Sad, but very true. Just sayin'

Now off to something really off topic.....http://gogoburrito.com/ I wonder if brandon is the marketing director for this place also? I have driven by this place litterally hundreds of times and could not for the life of me figure out why the sign looks soo familiar. After looking online i figured out it was owned by Austin Else. Looks like good stuff, I might actually give Austin some of my money and try it out. The sign outside the store says "Burrito and a beer for $10" It better be a damn good burrito! I might head of there today for lunch actually


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I agree with SPC, comments on this are a bit over the top. Jesus, it says 9+ DOE. More than fast food, and its a job! To the 8.5% of unemployed people in washington, it's a job. What do you expect? 100K/year with benefits to assemble packs? It's shit like this makes everything in this country move overseas and stuff that's actually still made here cost 500 times more than it should. People need to drop this sense of entitlement and come to terms with reality, or continue to hand over our status to China. Kind of off topic, should never have been brought up, but at least they are hiring. Unfortunately, they aren't going to get my business anymore in spite of everything I just stated. I'm sure they could be competitive and honest and cut their prices and costs on advertising and reflect that in their product but why? Whatever they're doing is working and there is too much money being made now to turn back. When it all catches up to them, they'll be under.
Unemployment pays up to 10 bucks an hour. Its hard for someone to take something like that when they can sit at home and make more money. Its a good argument both ways, we need cheap good labor, and we also need to make a living. I know I couldnt feed my family on 9 bucks an hour. I think unemployment in Vegas is around 16%. When I see jobs pop up in this price range they are met with some pretty nasty comments even out here.

Getting back on topic. I'm patiently waiting for the graphs that were promised.

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... Getting back on topic. I'm patiently waiting for the graphs that were promised.
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That made me spit my coffee out on the PC screen.

Now, you can hire someone for $9/hr to fix it.
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I agree with SPC, comments on this are a bit over the top. Jesus, it says 9+ DOE. More than fast food, and its a job! To the 8.5% of unemployed people in washington, it's a job. What do you expect? 100K/year with benefits to assemble packs? It's shit like this makes everything in this country move overseas and stuff that's actually still made here cost 500 times more than it should. People need to drop this sense of entitlement and come to terms with reality, or continue to hand over our status to China. Kind of off topic, should never have been brought up, but at least they are hiring. Unfortunately, they aren't going to get my business anymore in spite of everything I just stated. I'm sure they could be competitive and honest and cut their prices and costs on advertising and reflect that in their product but why? Whatever they're doing is working and there is too much money being made now to turn back. When it all catches up to them, they'll be under.
So are you saying that it's ok for Businesses to take advantage of the present economic climate by offering exploitative wages to attract people who have already been kicked in the crotch so many times the past few years?


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So are you saying that it's ok for Businesses to take advantage of the present economic climate by offering exploitative wages to attract people who have already been kicked in the crotch so many times the past few years?
Yep. We have a minimum wage. If you don't like the pay, don't do the job. Businesses aren't charities.

I've done way crappier work than making batteries for much less than $9/hr. My first real job after college just 10 yrs ago paid just 15/hr and I had to work and pay to get a 4yr science degree to qualify.

$9/hr to give some unskilled guy a soldering iron and and heat gun seems like not a terrible deal. For every hour you work, you can go buy Austin's awesome burrito :) Not saying much for the quality, buy hey
   
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This are so bad out here, for a couple bucks more an hour you can get a degreed electrical engineer out of school to clean your monitor. I can only hope the schools stopped telling them all they are going to make 60k a year out here. That only works when there are jobs available and you dont have 20 people that have experience applying for the same position.
Four-year degreed Engineers are some most sought after employees and average the highest starting salaries out of virtually all bachelor degrees. Yes, there are times when the job market is low for Engineers, but in general it is very rare for an EE to accept $12/hour.
Regardless, as an M.E. I feel capable of cleaning the monitor and if I screw it up, oh well.

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Four-year degreed Engineers are some most sought after employees and average the highest starting salaries out of virtually all bachelor degrees. Yes, there are times when the job market is low for Engineers, but in general it is very rare for an EE to accept $12/hour.
Regardless, as an M.E. I feel capable of cleaning the monitor and if I screw it up, oh well.
I can certainly appreciate all of the great value RCM provides by taking a hard look at MaxAmps while at the same time buying batteries assembled by people making the same basic wages elsewhere.

I say that not because I know definitively what others charge (minus Asia, it's a given it's less) but rather the skill required for such a repetitive job isn't very high. I know I can find people that will work at $9/hr+ performing this task, with training and decent quality control they would work out great.
   
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Four-year degreed Engineers are some most sought after employees and average the highest starting salaries out of virtually all bachelor degrees. Yes, there are times when the job market is low for Engineers, but in general it is very rare for an EE to accept $12/hour.
Regardless, as an M.E. I feel capable of cleaning the monitor and if I screw it up, oh well.
When I was working at Universal Studios Orlando a few years back (2004) the starting sallary for an EE or an ME was in the $25 to $30 per hour range. Starting pay for basic mechanics was $15.50. Basic meant having about 4 years of experience doing some level of mechanical work and knowledge. Most of what you learned on the job was pretty much a new experience, and most likely out of the ordinary anyway. Some of the senior Engineers were making upwards of $75K to $100K per year. I had a blast working there for 6 years and learned all kinds of stuff. From Animatronics, robotics, industrial speed controllers, hydraulics, pyrotechnics, and tons of show elements that make everything unique from venue to venue. Tearing down and rebuilding rollercoasters was one of the most interesting adventures when you get to see exactly what goes into their designs, and exactly what should be done in order to keep them up to par. Some parks rebubuild during overhauls using the old hardware. BIG time no no. Anyway good luck with finding the right job for you.


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When I was working at Universal Studios Orlando a few years back (2004) the starting sallary for an EE or an ME was in the $25 to $30 per hour range. Starting pay for basic mechanics was $15.50. Basic meant having about 4 years of experience doing some level of mechanical work and knowledge. Most of what you learned on the job was pretty much a new experience, and most likely out of the ordinary anyway. Some of the senior Engineers were making upwards of $75K to $100K per year.
My last job (a Senior Design Engineer for a large company) fit right into the middle of the salary ranges noted for Senior Engineers. I make less now but have much more fun working at SPC Racing.
   
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Four-year degreed Engineers are some most sought after employees and average the highest starting salaries out of virtually all bachelor degrees. Yes, there are times when the job market is low for Engineers, but in general it is very rare for an EE to accept $12/hour.
Regardless, as an M.E. I feel capable of cleaning the monitor and if I screw it up, oh well.
$12/hr for a double E? I was making that before I even graduated tech school. After I got my AE I was making more than twice that (16 years ago), and we live in one of the cheapest areas in the country as far as cost of living goes.

$9 an hour to assemble packs is more than fair in most areas, it's not hard and we pay people more than that to solder our circuit boards, and that is a lot harder than packs.

Also isn't the exchange rate for AU a lot lower than the US?


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Also isn't the exchange rate for AU a lot lower than the US?
AUD 1.00 = 0.995405 USD

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$12/hr for a double E? I was making that before I even graduated tech school. After I got my AE I was making more than twice that (16 years ago), and we live in one of the cheapest areas in the country as far as cost of living goes.

$9 an hour to assemble packs is more than fair in most areas, it's not hard and we pay people more than that to solder our circuit boards, and that is a lot harder than packs.

Also isn't the exchange rate for AU a lot lower than the US?
I think Vegas has been hit worst than most other states. I saw my house go from 520k to 450k to 220k. How about 170k for a foreclosure in the neighborhood. Some people start crying over losing 10 percent. Dont come crying at my house. During the peak we had engineers all over 6 figures, and designers making 70-100k range. Everyone that I know has pretty much taken a 40 to 50 percent or so cut in pay when you include benefits (or lack thereof), again thats if you can find a job. If you check the want ads you will see architects offering autocad drafting jobs for 9 bucks an hour.

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