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lincpimp · 10.04.2009, 01:25 AM

An e-jato would be a joke. Hopefully it is something like a amphibious car, that would be cool.

crazyjr · 10.04.2009, 04:11 AM

Why is the Jato a joke, I had one and loved it. I always wanted an electric version, but the conversions were not my style, not saying they were bad. The weight usually was too far forward and unless you had saddle pack lipos, you usually had trouble placing them in the chassis. The problem with the transmission, If people didn't run 1512 and 1515 neus in them there would be no problems. Mine run the 3.3 and a hot modified .12 when i raced it, never had a problem.

Here are the most asked things on the traxxas forums;
1. Rustler based slash; possible, especially with Losi bringing out the strike and everyone else bringing stadium truck based setups

2. 1/6-5 gas buggy; possible, they had one before

3. E-4-tec; not likely, but possibly rally?

4. Nitro slash based off the nitro stampede; not sure and don't follow nitro much anymore

Those were the most recent requests that i can recall, save for my thread asking for an Ejato. Here is what we will probably see if it's an E-jato.

Two speed tranny, with a brake servo for 80 MPH top speed.
Fully water proof VXL setup, possibly a fegaio based sensored(novak/LRP) setup for race legality. 13.5 Turn would be closest to the 3500 motors.currently used.

the one thing i'd like to see is a setup where the battery can be reconfigured and the tranny can be flipped (X-factory X-6/60) so on high traction tracks you can run mid motor

lincpimp · 10.04.2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr

Why is the Jato a joke, I had one and loved it. I always wanted an electric version, but the conversions were not my style, not saying they were bad. The weight usually was too far forward and unless you had saddle pack lipos, you usually had trouble placing them in the chassis. The problem with the transmission, If people didn't run 1512 and 1515 neus in them there would be no problems. Mine run the 3.3 and a hot modified .12 when i raced it, never had a problem.

Here are the most asked things on the traxxas forums;
1. Rustler based slash; possible, especially with Losi bringing out the strike and everyone else bringing stadium truck based setups

2. 1/6-5 gas buggy; possible, they had one before

3. E-4-tec; not likely, but possibly rally?

4. Nitro slash based off the nitro stampede; not sure and don't follow nitro much anymore

Those were the most recent requests that i can recall, save for my thread asking for an Ejato. Here is what we will probably see if it's an E-jato.

Two speed tranny, with a brake servo for 80 MPH top speed.
Fully water proof VXL setup, possibly a fegaio based sensored(novak/LRP) setup for race legality. 13.5 Turn would be closest to the 3500 motors.currently used.

the one thing i'd like to see is a setup where the battery can be reconfigured and the tranny can be flipped (X-factory X-6/60) so on high traction tracks you can run mid motor

I have had 2 e-jatos, and both were crap. The jato breaks parts (especially the damn tranny case) frequently, has horrible front tire/suspension wobble in reverse (granted I do not reverse much but it is still a problem). Even with plenty of up front weight it was difficult to drive over 60mph. Plus I think it is a poor design, all the way thru. An electric rustler is a better platform to start with.

I doubt that traxxas will do a 2 speed setup in an ejato. Plus if they retained the current tranny it would be a mid motor setup. And even a race prepped .12 does not have half the low end torque that a decent brushless setup does. I ran a 7s feigao 540 and 3s and the jato just could not handle the power. I could not imagine a 1512 jato, plus the tranny would be toast with decent grippy tires.

crazyjr · 10.05.2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp

I have had 2 e-jatos, and both were crap. The jato breaks parts (especially the damn tranny case) frequently, has horrible front tire/suspension wobble in reverse (granted I do not reverse much but it is still a problem). Even with plenty of up front weight it was difficult to drive over 60mph. Plus I think it is a poor design, all the way thru. An electric rustler is a better platform to start with.

I doubt that traxxas will do a 2 speed setup in an ejato. Plus if they retained the current tranny it would be a mid motor setup. And even a race prepped .12 does not have half the low end torque that a decent brushless setup does. I ran a 7s feigao 540 and 3s and the jato just could not handle the power. I could not imagine a 1512 jato, plus the tranny would be toast with decent grippy tires.

I guess i got lucky, i never had any troubles with my jato

lincpimp · 10.05.2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr

I guess i got lucky, i never had any troubles with my jato

Yeah, the nitro ones do not seem to suffer as much as a converted one. Just like anything else, a good basher can really up the beating when going to BL power! I just see the jato as not the best traxxas design out there.

I do like the pedes! I have 3 or 4. My favorite 2wd bashers!

MetalMan · 10.04.2009, 02:29 PM

When I saw Traxxas' "video" I couldn't help but shake my head. I see WAY too many Traxxas vehicles and am far from impressed by them, near to the point of disappointment at this time. Seriously, what are they trying to prove? That they can rally the masses of noobs?

simplechamp · 10.04.2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by junkman

Seriously, what are they trying to prove? That they can rally the masses of noobs?

Traxxas is the Coca-cola/McDonalds/Walmart of RC. They market to the masses, and market toward newcomers to the hobby. They have found their niche in the market and do a good job at it. I don't think there is any problem with that. If they are trying to prove anything it's that they can be a hugely successful company and draw many new people to the hobby.

suicideneil · 10.04.2009, 06:29 PM

Traxxas are like Maxamps in that respect, I would have to agree.

Trouble is, they dont make durable enough products for the people they are targeted at- noob = bad driver & poor electronics knowledge. Not a good idea to sell inherently weak designs then, and as for price gouging on the lipos, thats just shameless behaviour taking advantage of people who dont know any better/thing...

streethot · 10.04.2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil

Traxxas are like Maxamps in that respect, I would have to agree.

Trouble is, they dont make durable enough products for the people they are targeted at- noob = bad driver & poor electronics knowledge. Not a good idea to sell inherently weak designs then, and as for price gouging on the lipos, thats just shameless behaviour taking advantage of people who dont know any better/thing...

I was caught on that.....after rustler release i got one, looking websites, videos and so on, at that time, traxxas really looked good.....where i live i had the first lipos and so on......after some time i gave up on traxxas.....and i was glad to sell all my rustler spare parts.......is a good car, all traxxas are well built but with design flaws.....its for noobs only......imo.......

now i just cant imagine buy something traxxas.....

streethot · 10.04.2009, 08:30 PM

they will never release an e-buggy......to go 50mah or so and no jumps? servos?........a toy among rc cars? i cant hold it.......i really hate traxxas for sure.......who told emaxx was built for jumps???? i do not agree.......i will stop now, i dont want to remember all bad stuff......dot

10.04.2009, 10:11 PM

You would think that now that the Slash is the oldest platform in the SC arena and losing sales to the newer entries in the SC market, they would release a VXL Slash to regain some of those sales?

It will probably be an platinum edition e-Jato 3.3 deluxe.

zeropointbug · 10.04.2009, 10:41 PM

I heard a couple Rustler based Slash... if I'm not mistaken, the Slash IS based off the Rustler. Did I miss something?

What have traxxas fan boys been asking for lately? An electric slayer? That would have been my first thought. What about a truggy? I doubt this, but you never know. I mean they DID technically START the truggy revolution with the Revo's revolutionary design/performance, so maybe now is their time to actually jump into the monster they created and build something that can compete with the big boys.

BrianG · 10.05.2009, 01:22 AM

It's funny to hear the Jato not being durable, my e-jato has proven to be my most durable basher. Oh, I've bent upper links and broken a rear shock tower or two, but that's nowhere near the damage I'd get from bashing anything else I have. Of course, I'm only running a CC4600/MM on 3s, so there's not a whole lot of power, but still plenty enough to break the tires loose even geared for ~45 mph.

And I think the wobble in reverse has more to do with the toe out on the front tires than any design issue.

shaunjohnson · 10.05.2009, 02:54 AM

yeah, once the front cross brace on the front arms go, the arms last forever then

Unsullied_Spy · 10.05.2009, 06:15 AM

I had 2 nitro Jatos and hated them. The A arms are weak, the top plate breaks if you give it a stern talking to, the tranny is a PoS, shock towers break easily...not a bashers RC. I like the Taco Bell analogy someone used earlier, it's so true. I'm not losing any sleep wondering what Traxxas will release, the news will be all over the forums on Thursday and I'll check in then to see what it really is.