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11.30.2011, 08:37 PM

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My god this is a thing of beauty! I really need to get this new mmm extreme and 1717 combo! Ive got an on road project that needs this in it. Sexy is the only word that comes to mind right now! SEXY...but a thousand bucks for an on road rtr? Thats a bit much for me personally, BUT I know there are plenty of deep pockets that will shell it out. Gosh, a thousand bucks the 1.1 I drive only cost 1300 and Ive been driving it for two years now. Sheesh.
I'm sure you'll be able to get the combo from ebay chopshops soon enough. Also, that's tje MSRP, which is always higher than the selling price. I would say the selling price will be somewhere around $800...
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11.30.2011, 08:59 PM

Hi Patrick,
Will the TRAXXAS 1717 be available to the general RC market?
   
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Will the TRAXXAS 1717 be available to the general RC market?
Eventually. Right now all our production capacity for that motor is going to Traxxas.


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11.30.2011, 10:01 PM

well patrick the castle hardware on the car looks great, it my be enuf to get me to buy one, be we really need you guys to sell that 1717 too

i have a 1717 and its by far my favorite motor,i would love to be able to buy more of them


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11.30.2011, 11:44 PM

Definately a cool package. As always with traxxas there are things I like and things I don't. Dig the aero undertray and the sweet cc power train. Also the driveline dampner is cool. Don't dig the revo diffs or the 4x4 slash arms, front carriers and knuckles and rear hubs. Worst part is you have to have a iPhone to make it go 100mph. Although the sensorless telemetry is wicked cool. It's nice to see new stuff out of the cc corner. Can't wait to see how this all plays out for the rest of the cc line! Hopefully more cool stuff is just around the corner!
   
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12.01.2011, 12:21 AM

I was out doing laundry tonight and got bored, so I started thinking about what possessed Trx to require an iDevice (why I decided to ponder this unimportant topic of all things is beyond me). I realized my beef is not so much about the Apple device requirement (even though I dislike their products), but the need to get anything to fully use what I bought.

I assume they chose an Apple product because they are standard sized with standard hardware, so it's easier to develop a standard interface. I can also understand their desire to program the the telemetry interface for iOS since it's a more controlled environment. Not to mention there are so many implementations of Android on so many hardware versions that support and ensuring compatibility would be a chore.

What I DON'T get is why any device is needed to unlock the ESC? Require the device for added features like touch-interface, data storage, telemetry, etc - not a "great" idea IMO, but understandable. But don't limit the base functionality without that optional device. So I have to buy an otherwise unrelated product to use what I already paid for? Kinda like buying a 1:1 car with a V6 engine, but 3 of the pistons don't fire unless you hook up some Bose Acoustimass home speakers to the stock headunit.

Some people argue that even a current CC system requires the optional Castle Link to "unlock it", but that argument is baseless. It's more difficult, but you can program lots of stuff via the old fashioned transmitter way. You aren't buying a crippled device that only the CLink can unlock - it's just a finer tweaking tool. Big difference IMO. Other people argue that you have to buy better batteries for current setups to get the full capability. Baseless again. It's not like the system is intentionally crippled until it "knows" you are running lipos, it just allows it to run better.

OK rant over.

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12.01.2011, 12:36 AM

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I was out doing laundry tonight and got bored, so I started thinking about what possessed Trx to require an iDevice (why I decided to ponder this unimportant topic of all things is beyond me). I realized my beef is not so much about the Apple device requirement (even though I dislike their products), but the need to get anything to fully use what I bought.

I assume they chose an Apple product because they are standard sized with standard hardware, so it's easier to develop a standard interface. I can also understand their desire to program the the telemetry interface for iOS since it's a more controlled environment. Not to mention there are so many implementations of Android on so many hardware versions that support and ensuring compatibility would be a chore.

What I DON'T get is why any device is needed to unlock the ESC? Require the device for added features like touch-interface, data storage, telemetry, etc - not a "great" idea IMO, but understandable. But don't limit the base functionality without that optional device. So I have to buy an otherwise unrelated product to use what I already paid for? Kinda like buying a 1:1 car with a V6 engine, but 3 of the pistons don't fire unless you hook up some Bose Acoustimass home speakers to the stock headunit.

Some people argue that even a current CC system requires the optional Castle Link to "unlock it", but that argument is baseless. It's more difficult, but you can program lots of stuff via the old fashioned transmitter way. You aren't buying a crippled device that only the CLink can unlock - it's just a finer tweaking tool. Big difference IMO. Other people argue that you have to buy better batteries for current setups to get the full capability. Baseless again. It's not like the system is intentionally crippled until it "knows" you are running lipos, it just allows it to run better.

OK rant over.
You don't have to buy an iDevice to unlock it: you can borrow one, download the app, unlock the ESC, and give the iDevice back to its owner.

According to Traxxas, unlocking is a one-time thing and does not require continued presence of the idevice.

If needing to buy one was your only gripe, its gone.
   
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12.01.2011, 09:38 AM

And the Patent-Pending Cush Drive™ is bacically the samt thing that hpi have used on their baja for ages, just downsized
   
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And the Patent-Pending Cush Drive™ is bacically the samt thing that hpi have used on their baja for ages, just downsized
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clutches have disks, I've never seen a clutch with rubber pucks. I think you should take a clutch apart and revisit this comment. The LST slipper is much like a 1:1 clutch, and nothing like the cush drive.


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12.02.2011, 06:47 AM

I like to watch things traveling at high speed come apart violently, the soon to come YouTube videos should be entertaining.

Being able to change esc settings on the fly makes me all warm inside, this tech is pretty dam nice.

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clutches have disks, I've never seen a clutch with rubber pucks. I think you should take a clutch apart and revisit this comment. The LST slipper is much like a 1:1 clutch, and nothing like the cush drive.
The spring thingies. He didn't mean it's rubber, but the idea is the same.


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12.01.2011, 12:38 AM

wow!First off excellent job from traxxas and an even better but expected great job from castle !!!Waayy outta the box for traxxas but.......this set up is a recipe for problems i.m.o whats the problem you ask?$1000$ PLASTIC!!!!! after this goes 100mph you will be in debt with the vegas mob.Ive had traxxas for years and this set up belongs in a ofna gtp 2e carbon fiber set up not traxxas buddys.this car will go 100ft then flip flop into a pile o'plastic tooth brushes springs and bearings wait for it wait for it poof boom theres the lipos burn this 1000$ headache into a plastic cookie! although, the speedo is to me as valuable as alien technology.castle's in kahoots with mamba martians

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wow!First off excellent job from traxxas and an even better but expected great job from castle !!!Waayy outta the box for traxxas but.......this set up is a recipe for problems i.m.o whats the problem you ask?$1000$ PLASTIC!!!!! after this goes 100mph you will be in debt with the vegas mob.Ive had traxxas for years and this set up belongs in a ofna gtp 2e carbon fiber set up not traxxas buddys.this car will go 100ft then flip flop into a pile o'plastic tooth brushes springs and bearings wait for it wait for it poof boom theres the lipos burn this 1000$ headache into a plastic cookie! although, the speedo is to me as valuable as alien technology.castle's in kahoots with mamba martians
Glad some people around the world said verbatim what i said.Scary do some forum monitoring this was said by someone on another site "looks like a niko toys r.us tyco chassis"now dont get mad at me for my opinion,but we all know this thing will sell if it were $2000 once you show100mph on .......

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Glad some people around the world said verbatim what i said.Scary do some forum monitoring this was said by someone on another site "looks like a niko toys r.us tyco chassis"now dont get mad at me for my opinion,but we all know this thing will sell if it were $2000 once you show100mph on .......
a nascar track banked to stop wind. a nascar track is a artificial environment for a rc car commercial advertizing a plastic 100mph 10 pound rc car take that plastic dohickey to 3 random parking lots and speed test it hahaaahaaaa.have your hobby shop on speed dial.it'll sell though
   
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