2600 Kv rated motors? which one? - Page 4 - RC-Monster Forums

Revracer · 01.09.2008, 10:01 PM

Castle might, but nothing but positive feedback is the reason i was planning on getting one. where could i find a video of a truck with the mega other than on their site? i want to find one in a MT on 3 or 4s. and i might just get the 7xl since it is something i know will work amazingly. i would like to get other peoples feedback on this?

squeeforever · 01.09.2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

Keep in mind that in my opinion Castle over rates their controllers.

Why on earth would you say that?? The MM is only rated for 4S, yet the older ones can handle up to 5S. Even Castle reps said its good to go on 4S with the right setup, but it was just rated at 3S to cover there asses.

Revracer · 01.09.2008, 10:35 PM

well im getting the mamba. i looked at both others, but just the feedback on the mamba sells it for me. but motor. 7xl or mega???? i cant tell which is better.

lutach · 01.09.2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever

Why on earth would you say that?? The MM is only rated for 4S, yet the older ones can handle up to 5S. Even Castle reps said its good to go on 4S with the right setup, but it was just rated at 3S to cover there asses.

I got that from a few posts in rcgroups. Now I'm saying that from expirience as well as the Mamba seems to overheat easely. I have the new controller with the same set up that I had with the MM and it doesn't even break a sweet. Castle will be like Novak one day.

Revracer · 01.09.2008, 10:58 PM

is the mega motor worth the extra $50 or so? i mean a feigao will be about $100-110 after the heat slink clamp. but is the mega worth the extra? is it that much stronger?

stum · 01.09.2008, 11:02 PM

I'm dropping a 7XL and MM w/ the Castle BEC in my eRevo.. using 2 2s2p 6000mah lipo's to power it. Actually just waiting for my 5mm pinions to arrive by Friday with any luck.

Revracer · 01.09.2008, 11:04 PM

what about on a 3s 5000 lipo though? what are your opinions squee? you think the feigao or mega?

squeeforever · 01.09.2008, 11:12 PM

I have no experience with the Mega, and haven't heard to much about them, but from what Lutach has said, it sounds pretty good. I might try one myself.

lutach · 01.09.2008, 11:20 PM

If they were bad, Mike would never sell them. Feigao is has good price, but one can never compare a Feigao to a Aveox, Mega, Neu, Lehner, Plettenberg and a couple of other good brands out there. I have most of the brushless goodies you can have and I played around testing what works best. I like my MGM 8012 and I have it in my TC3 Truggy. I had the MM in there, but the MM cogged really bad with the HV4.5 motor. As soon as I had the MGM 80 programmed it ran ultra smooth and cool. I said before that Castle over rates its controller basically because the MGM has a rating of 80A and runs cooler then the MM. I like the MM, but I haven't used it for a while now. If you do get the 7XL make sure you get great lipos and I would recommend GriffinRU's mod and a nice fan. Just my opinion.

Revracer · 01.09.2008, 11:29 PM

im running maxamps stuff. thats what i like and trust the guys there. im sure mega is good, but im not sure if it will be worth the $154 price tag. and i would have liked to get mroe feedback on them... i mean 3500Kv and more torque than the 7xl sounds amazing to me. but... all ive heard is what lutach has said. ive heard tons and tons of great stuff about the feigao...

lincpimp · 01.10.2008, 12:38 AM

Just me two cents:

Feigao motors are a graet deal, comparing their performance to what they cost. For the average basher a properly setup MM and feigao will offer exactly what they want. The money saved can be used to buy better batteries (enerland cell based), which I highly suggest.

After some amount of time a feiago user will want to step up to a better motor. I am sure that the mega motor is more effecient and cooler running than a feigao. Plus it is most likely more powerful. I noticed the same thing when going to hacker motors, supposedly feigao are hacker clones. That is like comparing apples to oranges IMO. If you budget will allow for a better motor, buy it. If not go for the feigao motor, they work just fine.

I find the humor of your statement lutach. Saying that the mm gets hot due to the fact it is overrated is incorrect. The mgm has superior programming, in that it does not seem to mind what type of motor it runs. Same with the quark, save for a poor heatsink design. The mm is an excellent 2 pole motor contoller, and an amazing value. No doubt that the higher priced and rated escs will work better, however there is no need to buy a 300 esc to run a 2 pole motor on 4s, the mm works just fine for that. I have run mine on a 4 pole plett and had good results, but it is in a smaller/lighter vehicle.

Revracer · 01.10.2008, 04:47 PM

so for mostly bashing and very light racing(small club racing where no one is competitive and the fastest motor out there is probly a 3.3) the feigao with a rc-monster clamp will be my best bet? looking for 35-40mph speeds and enough torque to do wheelies.

lutach · 01.10.2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp

I find the humor of your statement lutach. Saying that the mm gets hot due to the fact it is overrated is incorrect. The mgm has superior programming, in that it does not seem to mind what type of motor it runs. Same with the quark, save for a poor heatsink design. The mm is an excellent 2 pole motor contoller, and an amazing value. No doubt that the higher priced and rated escs will work better, however there is no need to buy a 300 esc to run a 2 pole motor on 4s, the mm works just fine for that. I have run mine on a 4 pole plett and had good results, but it is in a smaller/lighter vehicle.

Explain something to me. I ran the MGM 8012 which has no heatsink with the same set up I ran the MM and the MM thermaled a few times and the MGM didn't. Yes, it might be better software coming out of the MGM, but it has a rating that is 20A less then the MM and no heatsink. If someone is on a budget, then yes go with the Feigao and MM. I just wanted to help out in pointing a good efficient sytem.

Revracer · 01.10.2008, 05:10 PM

well i wish i could afford the extra $50 for the motor and all. but im barely able to pull through with the feigao, clamp heat sink, and mamba max. and a mamba max is rated for higher amps draw. more amps pushing through it means hotter temperatures.

lincpimp · 01.10.2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

Explain something to me. I ran the MGM 8012 which has no heatsink with the same set up I ran the MM and the MM thermaled a few times and the MGM didn't. Yes, it might be better software coming out of the MGM, but it has a rating that is 20A less then the MM and no heatsink. If someone is on a budget, then yes go with the Feigao and MM. I just wanted to help out in pointing a good efficient sytem.

Well, what kinfd of amp draw do you think your setup was pulling. I know that the mm is designed to spin a 2 pole motor, maybe that is what its rating refers to. Using a higher pole count motor seems to load the esc more, and may lower its ratings to suit. I feel it has alot to do with the programming. Quark and mgm got it right, for many different motors, while cc may have only tested their 2 pole motors (feigao-style) with it. I am sure that the meg/mgm setup would be alot better than the mm/feigao setup. But it is also nearly twice the price, which is revracers issue at the moment. I think it is good to start with a cheaper system to get used to brushless, and then graduate to a better system. That way if you destroy something due to assembly error it is cheaper. I still run feigao motors, but have gone to lower kv motors on more voltage, which the cheap motors seem to be more tolerant of. I guess that the lower amp draw thru the motor masks the ineffeceintcy of the feigao.