So what's with UE?

[sjcrss]

np....i understand....

[JERRY2KONE]

Ok fellas after reading your concerns over the last few weeks, Just to share some info with you guys I wrote an email to Robin last week sharing some of your/our thoughts and concerns with him and asking what the future is for UE as far as the SuperMaxx was concerned. He basically told me that "all of the gossip was a huge BS campaign and that I should pay no attention to it. He said he has no plans on selling UE or letting the SuperMaxx line die". Now I do not know him personally, but why would he lie to us? What would be the gain for his business? UE is his life.

So in saying that I have faith that with the great quality of his product line for us and the reputaion that he has set for himself with the unbeatable quality of his MAXX line of products, that we are all worried about nothing. This is just one of the querks that we have to deal with when our supplier happens to be a private company and does not look at things from a mass production kind of view because money does not grow on trees, because production is not free. He has his hands in many pots and has to share his time accordingly in order to keep all of his customers interested in what he is selling. He is not in this just for the money. He loves what he does plain and simple.

I am sure that he would love to have the unlimited resoucres that the huge commercial conglomerates and goverment agencies have, but he is just one little company trying to find the best way to survive that he knows how. I have 4 UE superMaxx's and I love the quality of each and everyone of them. I agree that breaking any of them would be a shame, and getting replacement parts would be very difficult at the moment, but that would be our own fault for not preparing for the inevitable (everything manmade breaks). Personally if I break something I would be very suprprized, but what the heck are you doing to your trucks that would make that happen. UE manufactures probably the best quality SuperMaxx gear on the market and it is pretty much indestructable unless you are smashing into concrete walls, or jumping your truck off of a two story building. So what are you so worried about?

Bottom line is that you have your hands on one of the best R/C products that has ever been made. Unless you are trying to leave these trucks to your grandkids then Enjoy it and have fun doing what we all love to do. Drive your ass off and make some memories with your investment. Take photos and remember the good times. None of us will be here forever you know. You could be crushed by a semi on your way to the track with your SuperMaxx in the back seat.

I love reading all of the hubub in the various forums learning exactly what the pulse of our R/C brothers is, and I hope we will be talking about the SuperMaxx for a long time to come. Truth be told I just ordered several pieces from UE this past week including the gen IV servo saver and a few other items and they have already been shipped. Robin is working on the restocking issues and we just have to be patient. Of course that is just one R/C junkies opinion. I have been very lucky finding some of my gear on EBay at a very good price. I bought a box full of UE stuff last year for $750 when I just got started into building my first SuperMaxx, and When I priced out everything in the box it had a retail value of about $2200.

If I were you guys I would be getting all of your friends together that have UE products and start writing to Robin directly expressing how much we appreciate what he has been doing for us, and that we desire to keep the SuperMaxx product line up and running. He needs to hear from all of us so he knows how much of a demand there really is out there. Well I hope this helps some, and lets put the pressure in the right place to resolve the issues at hand. I hope I have not stepped on anyones elses toes with this. Have a great day guys.

[2FastSS4U]

Well said.

[captain harlock]

Now that's a relief. Probably I should just keep it and forget about converting a truggy anytime soon.

[ClodMaxx]

i just gave up and sold my SM. if i waited to run it when new parts started showing up in inventory, i'd most likely have arthritis and couldn't drive it anyhow.

jerry - i appreciate what you wrote, but robin has been saying that for years and still nothing.

[JERRY2KONE]

Yes we all have different feelings about what is going on at UE, but from my point of view I have learned that there will always be roadblocks thrown in front of us, but we have to find a way around them. Giving up and selling our toys is not the answer. In the very last part of my blog I gave everyone the incentive to write to UE and express your feelings to them/Robin/Sam. If he gets enough of a response then that might be all it takes for him to see that there is a real reason to keep making the parts we need and supply us a little bit better. It is great that we all have these forums to vent on, but he is the one that needs to hear what we are going through. He is the only one who can get anything done with the UE issues for supplying us the parts we need.

With everyone running scared and selling their UE products over the last year I have managed to put together 4 Supermaxx's with UE parts purchased on EBay & other sites at huge discounts in most cases. We R/C junkies have to band together and make UE realize that They have an obligation to their customers to support & supply us with replacement parts since we are the ones who have kept them in business up to now. Venting and complaining on a forum is great for stress relief, but it is not going to make that point to UE... Look at the situation here, this is a win win scinario on both sides. We get what we want & need, and he gets money. This is not rocket science but if we don't speak out to UE nothing will get to the people who matter the most. I am sure that Robin is not reading these blogs, but he does read his emails almost every day. So we bombard him with requests to get better support for UE parts of the SuperMaxx. How hard is that to do?

Sorry if I am pissing in anyones weaties here, but I know you have all heard the saying "it is the squeeky wheel that gets the oil". Well lets start squeeking. At this point what have we got to lose. He either responds with a reasonable answer or he closes up shop on us. What do you think he will do?

While we are on the subject why isn't someone out there making a complete set of "UltraMaxxed" gears yet? The guy who was making them closed up shop quite a while ago. I know RC4WD has a mediocer copy of them, but they do not have the same capabilities as UE or FastLane for high quality machined parts. UE & FastLane would be a good place to start, or even Mike at RCmonster. There has to be someone out here that can make things happen for us. We litterally have thousands of people around the world who are involved in this hobby with EMAXX vehicles who need the support of one company or another. The only thing that produces success is demand, but only if the manufacturer knows that the demand exists. We have to speak up and make sure it gets to the right people. I know Mike has a reputation for getting us what we want and need. Maybe he is the man we should be talking with. Does anyone out there have a set uf ultramaxxed gears that they can send to Mike to use as a template? Just a thought.

I hope you guys are getting pissed about this and want to do something about it. Robin says UE is fine and recovering. So lets let him know that we are here waiting on him. Life is good. Have a great day gentelmen. I'm out.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Does anyone out there have a set uf ultramaxxed gears that they can send to Mike to use as a template?

Hi !

... yes, i have a set of gears still sitting in my spare parts box, i managed to get two sets of gears in the short time range they were produced by "ultramaxxed".

but i think there will be no real demand for the gears since the emaxx isn´t that state of the art anymore... and - to be really honest - with the unlimited idlers the ultramaxxed gears are nice to have but not really neccessary to build a bomb proof truck.

btw - are the ue idlers in stock anywhere? i think not...

But i will comment on what you said regarding the demand of ue products:

There _is_ demand of ue products and robin should know this. the german distributor, gp-racing.de has so many open orders that are months old and he gets no parts...

robin could get hundreds of dollars just from me - i would instantly order lightning chassis, 7.5er diffs, shox, all that.

even on his homepage he writes that he will only sell via his distributors... and the distributors don´t get parts.

i would instantly order parts for a few hundred dollars if i could.

marc.

p.s.:

same problem with gorillamaxx - you get no parts.

[JERRY2KONE]

I am not here to defend UE or Robin. I have merely been trying to get everyone who has an interest in the UE products to stand up and be heard. Neither you or I can do anything on our own, but if he gets hit from all sides by everyone who has spoken in these forums he has to take notice, and maybe he will come through. I have no idea what UE's problems are, but we have to fight together as a group of R/C diplomats and make him pay attention. And I just ordered two sets of steel idlers on Friday and they were mailed out yesterday. I should have them within a week. So the products are still comming, but slowly from what I can see.

I wrote an email to Mike (RCMONSTER) this morning to request his assistance in convincing FLM to make a set of gears like the ULTRAMAXX gears for production and sale. You may think that there is no need for them but I am one to say that there is a need. I run all metal gearing in my trucks, but I know they can be made better.

I have never heard so much negativity in all my life. Don't you get it. There is always strength in numbers. Besides what do you have to lose???? Obviously you are already having trouble getting the UE gear so why not fight for it. If all you have to contribute is negative energy then why are you even bothering talking on here about it? If you fall down, what do you do? That is right you get back up and keep pushing forward.

If you're on the UE forums, then you've seen this - check MM's response in the thread - reply #5 I believe -

http://www.unlimitedengineering.com/...407#post232407

MM almost makes it sounds like he's not finished with the RC scene, but I don't know what to think. I have enough spares for my 3 that I will continue to run, build and modify until I run short on spares. It would be nice to see him make a comeback, especially on parts that wear (Super6, cvds etc). But I wouldn't blame him if he remained a custom motorcycle parts inventor/supplier.

Also, the guy who posts as "bnighs" on UE forum (I've bought a lot of UE stuff from him, he is dependable and reliable - check UE BST trader info also) posted a few weeks back that he had finally "finished" the UltraMaxx E-Maxx gear sets and they were available. I believe he explained he was involved in getting them produced (latest generation) and IIRC said he had 30sets.

Ben works a weird schedule, so if you try and contact him, it may be a while before he gets replies. I think his job is in a diff state from where he lives and he is gone days at a time. He has always replied to pms I've sent him. I've seen no further mention so I have no clue if he still has any left - most of his dealings go on via pms.

Ben is the guy who made the OTB trans setups that were used for supermaxx.

[ClodMaxx]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

I have never heard so much negativity in all my life. Don't you get it. There is always strength in numbers. Besides what do you have to lose???? Obviously you are already having trouble getting the UE gear so why not fight for it. If all you have to contribute is negative energy then why are you even bothering talking on here about it? If you fall down, what do you do? That is right you get back up and keep pushing forward.

by all means, fight the good fight dude. fight for this until you're purple in the face. but if you've been around the UE scene over the past, oh, at least 2-3 years, and you've tried contacting robin or sam with that very complaint, or if you've tried asking on the UE friggin forums about what the heck is going on, and get ZERO replies or answers, you'll quickly lose that steam.

combine that frustration with spending thousands and thousands and thousands - on one truck - one complete UE supermaxx masterpiece - when you don't have that much to spend on a single truck, but think it's worth it anyhow - and all of a sudden there are no replacement parts? when suddenly you have something that is not only rare, but very much sought after and worth a literal ton of money?

well, i didn't get mad anymore. i made my own point to robin in my own way. i became indifferent and sold the truck, and will put the money towards another great truck that i can actually build, enjoy, and get inexpensive replacement parts for.

[ClodMaxx]

eric (0700) was being funny. he was referring to the harley tanks.

[jordan...]

wow im stupid

sure wish he wasnt joking though

[JERRY2KONE]

Wow!!! I can see that there is a lot of frustration among us with UE. The thing is that we all feel it. We have all been effected in some way by the lack of effort shown by UE over the last two to three years. Maybe UE needs a gentle push in the right direction. Maybe they need some help that we are unaware of. I am a very proud American who has grown up to be undaunted and steadfast in my quest for a good life:mdr. 20 years in the US military teaches you that there is no victory in anything without sacrifice, wheather it is time, money or even life. We don't know how to just give up. It is not in our blood. Some may see it as arigance, or even stupidity. To bad! The bottom line is that we don't turn tail and run from a fight that is worth fighting. It may not always turn out the way that we had hope, but at least we try to do our best.

UE did something that no one else was able to do at that time, and produced a line of Hop-ups that are by far the best on the market. You have to give them credit for that. Maybe he is burnt out on the R/C business and it is time to hang up the hat and call it a day. If he keeps getting pounded with negative comments and discontent then why should he continue to be there for us? If we share our side on a more positive note, then maybe he will feel better about helping our community out and continue producing the products that we have come to love.

Regardless of what you may have experienced with UE, sometimes you have to take a step back and decide what is worth fighting for and what is not. That is the beauty of a free society, and even the "free will" that religion allows us to have. You can stand around and whine all day long and be disappointed if that is your wish, but if you expect anything positive to come out of your efforts then you might want to think about a different approach. Look if the R/C community steps up and tries to work things out with Robin, then maybe he will feel a little compassion and more of an obligation to work things out for us. If all we do is bitch and whine about what they are not doing, then what do you think their response is going to be. Even if he does close up shop there are still alternatives that we as a superior creatures on this planet can do to overcome. If you want something bad enough you will find a way to get it. If not then crawl back under your rock and go to sleep. This is a choice that is up to each and every one of us. I love this sport and I am not giving up until I get what I want. How about you?

Just a piece of philosophy to think about. If you are not willing to help with a positive solution, then you are part of the problem. We come here to these forums to work out problems and help each other work out solutions to overcome set-backs. So what is your contribution to the UE situation? Come on guys think about it and lets start comming up with a resolution. What do you think? We all need to know how you feel. Life is a party so lets start living it up.

[JERRY2KONE]

I just wanted to share with you guys on here what I posted on the UE site this morning. Now I am only one SuperMaxx enthusiest who loves what we do with these very expensive toys. We need these UE products and without them our trucks are just show trucks. I want to play without worry that I will ruin what I have built knowing that I cannot repair it. So if we show some solidarity and express that need to UE then just maybe UE will pay attention and cowboy up with the products that have become a staple in our sport. So if this really means anything at all to you, then take a minute out of your day and go to the UE site and post your feelings on the matter for Robin and Sam to read, so they know how we all feel. Hopefully this will make them think about how their efforts or lack of is affecting all of us. Now I do not know what the reasons are for UE's lack of SuperMaxx product stocks are, but it is about time for all of the people who have invested their hard earned money into the success of this company and demand answers as to weather or not UE is going to support us or not. If they are then when? If not then we can all stop hoping for a repreave and move on to a different agenda, but at leat we will know what the heck is going on. Here is the thread that I posted.

Hey Robin there is a lot of discussion going on between many of the UE SuperMaxx owners around the world on several sites including this one, and some of the guys are already running scared and selling their trucks because you refuse to share any info with us. All we want to know is weather or not your stocks will be refilled (when) so we can continue racing and bashing our trucks. If we break anything right now we are up a creek without any parts to get the trucks back no track. So is it too much to ask weather or not it is worth keeping our UE gear or not? We all love your products, but if you are not going to keep the stocks up then what is the point? Many of us have invested thousands of dollars purchasing your gear and now we are feeling abandoned. Your parts are definitely the best on the market, but we still break them and need replacement parts to keep our trucks running. So please make the effrot to either set our minds at ease or put us out of our misery with some kind of information about what is going on. We need to know something concrete so we can make a decision one way or the other. Thank you.

[ClodMaxx]

well looks like the UE thread you posted in got locked by robin. still wanna stand for what you believe in with that kind of support (or lack thereof)? that's a prime example of what i've been saying, and one of the reasons i got out of UE.

it's robin's sandbox, and he doesn't play well with others. imagine how he would feel if harley stopped making any and all replacement parts for that nice shiny V-Twin he has. i would be willing to bet - no, guarantee - that he'd be the biggest one throwing a fit.