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2 KiloWatt RACER
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12.20.2007, 08:58 PM
sweet deal man. The mamba does great with low kv motors, but I have the same issue like you when I use my 7800kV LRP.
6 KiloWatt A123 Racer
GTP-Pletty Big Maxximum+RX8. GTP-C50-6L Hacker+RX8. CRT.5-Pro4+ZTW esc.
24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
18s4p Raptor 60mph Ebike. 11.5KW
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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12.26.2007, 02:41 PM
I'm also going to have some Brushless ESC for 1/18, 1/16 and 1/14 scale. This little guy has the following Specs:
Specifications:
40 Amps maximum continuous current rating (at 25℃ ambient temperature with proper air flow)
Input: 5~18 cell Nixx or 2~7S A123 or 2~6S Lixx
2 Amps BEC (maximum input with BEC limited to 9 cell Nixx or 3S A123 or 3S Lixx)
Dimensions: 40 X 24 X 14 mm
Weight: 23g (including leads)
Features:
Proportional forward, brake and reverse
Proportional control of starting torque by throttle trigger – the starting
torque can be tremendous high or incredibly low
Extremely smooth startup and low speed operations
Programmable throttle curve, acceleration rate, motor timing, low
battery cutoff voltage, reverse power limit and drag brake strength
Easy and fast stick programming with ‘skip’ and ‘read back’ features
5 programmable operation modes (please refer to the table below)
180,000 RPM theoretical speed limit for 2 pole motor
Lost signal protection
It has the following settings:
1: Throttle Curve:
Option 1 (30% Reverse Exponential)
Option 2 (15% Reverse Exponential)
Option 3 (Default) (Linear)
Option 4 (15% Exponential)
Option 5 (30% Exponential)
2: Acceleration Rate:
Option 1 (Very low)
Option 2 (Low)
Option 3 (Default) (Normal)
Option 4 (High)
Option 5 (Very high)
3: Motor Timing Advance:
Option 1 (Very Low)
Option 2 (Low)
Option 3 (Default) (Normal)
Option 4 (High)
Option 5 (Very High)
4: Operation Mode:
Option 1 (Mode 1 Forward with proportional brake and stop lockout
Reverse with proportional brake and stop lockout)
Option 2 (Default) (Mode 2 Forward with proportional brake and stop lockout
Reverse with proportional brake to stop then Forward (no lockout))
Option 3 (Mode 3 Forward with proportional brake to stop then Reverse (no lockout) Reverse with proportional brake to stop then Forward (no lockout))
Option 4 (Mode 4 Forward with proportional brake only (no reverse))
Option 5 (Mode 5 Forward and Reverse with adjustable Drag Brake (for Crawlers or Tanks only))
5: Battery Type:
Option 1 (Nixx)
Option 2 (A123)
Option 3 (Default) (Lixx (Low) (2.8 V cutoff per cell))
Option 4 (Lixx (Medium) (3.0 V cutoff per cell))
Option 5 (Lixx (High) (3.2 V cutoff per cell))
Item 6: Low Battery Cutoff Voltage:
Option 1 (Nixx 5-6 cell (Disable), A123 Not applicable, Lixx (Low) Not applicable, Lixx (Medium) Not applicable and Lixx (High) Not applicable
Option 2 (Default) (Nixx 7-8 cell (6.0 V), A123 2S (Disable), Lixx (Low) 2S (5.6 V), Lixx (Medium) 2S (6.0 V) and Lixx (High) 2S (6.4 V)
Option 3 (Nixx 9-11cell (8.0 V), A123 3S (6.0 V), Lixx (Low) 3S (8.4 V), Lixx (Medium) 3S (9.0 V), Lixx (High) 3S (9.6 V)
Option 4 (Nixx 12-14 cell (10.4 V), A123 4S (8.0 V), Lixx (Low) 4S (11.2 V), Lixx (Medium) 4S (12.0 V), Lixx (High) 4S (12.8 V)
Option 5 (Nixx 15-18 cell (13.2 V), A123 5S (10.0 V), Lixx (Low) 5S (14.0 V), Lixx (Medium) 5S (15.0 V), Lixx (High) 5S (16.0 V)
Option 6 (Nixx Not applicable, A123 6S (12.0 V), Lixx (Low) 6S (16.8 V), Lixx (Medium) 6S (18.0 V), Lixx (High) 6S (19.2 V)
Option 7 (Nixx Not applicable, A123 7S (14.0 V), Lixx (Low) Not applicable, Lixx (Medium) Not applicable, Lixx (High) Not applicable
7: Low Battery Cutoff Method:
Option 1 (Partial Cutoff)
Option 2 (Default) (Full Cutoff)
8: Reverse Power Limit:
Option 1 (25%)
Option 2 (50%)
Option 3 (75%)
Option 4 (Default) (100%)
Item 9: Drag Brake Strength
Works with: 4 (Option 1-4) 5 (Option 5)
Option 1 (Default) 0% 0%
Option 2 5% 12%
Option 3 10% 25%
Option 4 15% 37%
Option 5 20% 50%
Option 6 25% 62%
Option 7 30% 75%
Option 8 35% 87%
Option 9 40% 100%
This little controller is the only one I know of that has a Battery setting for the A123 style batteries with a 2.0V cut off and it has a setting for crawlers.
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Brushless Heavy Weight....
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12.26.2007, 11:47 PM
I like the high cell counts... when are you expecting this?
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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12.27.2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by aqwut
I like the high cell counts... when are you expecting this?
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Aqwut the above ESC is for the small RCs. The factory only has 30 of them and I'm thinking of getting them all, but I don't know how many people would actually want one. If I can get 20 people interested, I'll bring the 30 units in.
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Brushless Heavy Weight....
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12.27.2007, 12:51 AM
yeah... those are some good escs according to the specs... that's a lot of power for a small scale RC.. but it's awesome to have a 1/18th scale rc running 22.2 volts...
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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12.27.2007, 01:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aqwut
yeah... those are some good escs according to the specs... that's a lot of power for a small scale RC.. but it's awesome to have a 1/18th scale rc running 22.2 volts...
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The small ESC says to use up to 3S lipos with BEC and to desable it for 4-6S lipos. Man I tried this little monster with a 5S 3850mAh TP to see if it could handle it. Well it does and the Mamba 8000 motor's shaft broke. This will be the ESC I will use in a micro to try and set s speed record. I might buy a Recoil to do this.
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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12.27.2007, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lutach
The small ESC says to use up to 3S lipos with BEC and to desable it for 4-6S lipos. Man I tried this little monster with a 5S 3850mAh TP to see if it could handle it. Well it does and the Mamba 8000 motor's shaft broke. This will be the ESC I will use in a micro to try and set s speed record. I might buy a Recoil to do this.
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i had a recoil running a wraith7k/quark 33a. i loved how that car handled the power. i miss it now that it hit ebay to fund other projects. i think i seen a pro version coming out so i might have to get one of those again to fill the loss i feel.
Current Projects
CEN GST Mgm 22418
castle 1717
6s lipo
Losi Aftershock
Infinite 160a esc
Motor Not sure yet
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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12.27.2007, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tashpop
i had a recoil running a wraith7k/quark 33a. i loved how that car handled the power. i miss it now that it hit ebay to fund other projects. i think i seen a pro version coming out so i might have to get one of those again to fill the loss i feel.
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I own a few Quark 33A and 22A and they are good, but this 40A controller goes a step further with the 6S lipo and 7S A123 capability.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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12.27.2007, 02:10 PM
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Old Skool
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02.07.2008, 05:16 PM
Slight bit of a necropost, but I stumbled across this whilst looking on fleebay:
Speedpassion esc
and their main site: Clicky
One or both of those escs look rather familiar to me...
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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02.07.2008, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by suicideneil
Slight bit of a necropost, but I stumbled across this whilst looking on fleebay:
Speedpassion esc
and their main site: Clicky
One or both of those escs look rather familiar to me...
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You should check out the guys at rctech.net. They are flaming and would probably choke me to death. Speed Passion is a line from King Golden which is a distributor. I have the controller from the factory that made Speed Passion, but the factory's has beeter specs. I think UH www.hobbycity.com will carry the same model I have. I'm still trying to get pricing from the factory, but the delay is incredible.
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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02.07.2008, 05:38 PM
Problem is the 3S lipo limit sucks
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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02.07.2008, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jzemaxx
Problem is the 3S lipo limit sucks
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For Speed Passion yes, mine handles 4S lipos.
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02.07.2008, 06:08 PM
I saw that in the SP thread lutach
You really got flamed lol, I was laughing so hard, those guys really want what everyone else has
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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02.07.2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO
I saw that in the SP thread lutach
You really got flamed lol, I was laughing so hard, those guys really want what everyone else has
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They actually messed up in this forum: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=244134. Adam actually said the SP GT pictured was the 60A Feigao, which is not true. I hope to get prices soon and I hope hobbycity.com can get them as well and I'll see what those guys who bought the GT will say. It's funny how Shawn started making up specs when he was under the gun. Those guys have no clue what timing means and I've seen them saying if you advance the time in a brushless, the motor will be faster. I wish my motors would go faster if I change the timing. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
Last edited by lutach; 02.07.2008 at 08:10 PM.
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