Savage or Emaxx?

[Rtsbasic]

Hi guys, I have a question for you. Purely for bashing, doing silly jumps and in general messing about, would you rather have a Savage, or an Emaxx? The Savage would be a stock Savage 25 converted to brushless, the Emaxx more extensively hopped up - FLM bulks, RPM arms, center dogbones, cvds on corners, alloy hubs, strobe slipper, Tmaxx 3.3 chassis, Integy shocks with UE springs, UE 8 spyder diffs.

For what reason would you choose the vehicle you did? I know the Emaxx has more fancy bits on, but ultimately if the Savage as near stock could match the durability of a hopped up Emaxx, I could make a bit of money back off the Maxx and channel it into other things. I would probably go with the Kershaw designs conversion on the Savage as the motor plate required is more complex than what I can do with the tools to hand. The powerplant is a 9920 with Feigao 9XL and RCM clamp, on 12-14 cells normally, but I do on occation run 20 cells.

Thanks.

[Mike.L]

well i would go for the savage if your keeping it stock, and getting brushless,
for the e-maxx you can do many different things other then bashing but it will cost to mutch in the end, but if you do choose the e-maxx dont get the integy mrs4 shocks. would rather get some pl power strokes or 8 ue.
dude for the money difference go for the savage.

[Rtsbasic]

Thanks for the input. Just to clarify, I already have the Emaxx and the Savage, along with the powerplant. I made so much money back off the Savage bits I won't be needing like the engine, exhaust, radio etc that the car was free in the end.

If I go with the Savage, I would like to keep it as stock as possible, which is why I'd like to know which car you guys think would be the more durable - mostly stock Savage or pretty hopped up Emaxx? Better design and stock materials vs aftermarket alloy and nylon. The Savage is a bit bigger which is in its favor, but the Emaxx I've had working the last few months pretty good.

[Mike.L]

cant decide eh?? i've seen the rc-monster brushless open and theres one big jump gap and those e-maxxes take a large beating when landing. if you are willing to spend and go wild go with the e-maxx.

right now the slipperencial is being produced by rcm mike so thers a top notch mod 1 gearing setup. only fits the g-maxx chassis though. that might be some thing to highly consider.

[Rtsbasic]

Really can't decide. Spend the last 2 weeks trying to..*bangs head against wall*

If I stuck with my Emaxx its doubtful I'll be spending much more money on it than what I have already (the hopups I listed in the 1st post are already fitted).

I have read a couple of things about the slipperencial, sounds good, but unless its priced rather well I'd stick with my strobe mod1 setup. The Savage uses mod1 as standard so my existing pinions should work fine.

[Mike.L]

i would go with the savage and you can still get some flm parts for it. its durable as it is.

[jhautz]

I vote Savage also. There is still something a little more ''special'' about a Brushless Savage vs Brushles E-Maxx. The emaxxs seem to be a dime a dozen now days. While the Brushless Savages are getting more, they are just not as run of the mill as the E-Maxx. IMO

[neweuser]

Mike L -Ummm, the brushless open eh? I raced in that. The only reason my maxx took a beating was because i didn't know how to take the jump(didn't control it in the air and didn't practice). Also, with the beating it took, i didn't break one thing, except my electronics. The savages barely made that jump.....also, what do you think Mike ran? He made that jump no problem, everytime. The Maxx had NO PROBLEM with that jump! Half of jumping is the driving!!!! Also, the savage is stronger, but it can't fly!!! Also, the maxx is more versatile with what you can do to it. You can build it to more your liking. IMHO!! Again, i will say....the maxx did not have a problem! It was the driver if anything! Ask anyone who owns an emaxx....

[Rtsbasic]

From the few times I've had the chance to take my Maxx over a good sized jump I know its pretty good in the air if the launch is good. Never jumped it higher than 4ft or so yet though as my ramps not steep enough and its not seen a BMX track yet.

Whats a Savage jump like? I've seen some people jump and royally screw it up before (engine mounts ripped from the engine, needed welding back), but the car drives away okay. Never driven one much so don't know how responsive it is in the air etc.

[neweuser]

Well, jsut by what i saw at the bash, they jump like tanks on huge jumps, but do very well on smaller jumps. Not very nuch experience but have seen many videos of the two in comparison. I think the savage would jump well if set up for it. Could probably handle it too. I won't knock the savage because it's a good truck and strong, but i drive my maxx and it takes a good beating the way i have it set up, plus it flies well too. So, the choice i think would come down to straight out strength....

[Serum]

I can give you a few good reasons for getting a savage for bashing. In stock form, it preforms more than good.

you only need two aluminum diff housings and hotbodies C8019 cups. the housings are 20-25 dollars each, from GPM. with proper shimming you have got bulletproof diffs.

It comes with a MOD1 spur. A camshaft type of servo saver is cheap to lay hands on (6-8 bucks on ebay, from the K4,6)

the stock plastic shocks are tough. everything is tough on that truck to tell you the truth.. (exept for the diffs and the centershafts) with these items replaced, you have got a tough as nails basher, which takes high jumps like nothing else.

The 6spider diffs are stronger than the UE 6 spiders, if you built them like i discribed.

For bashing i would use 14 cells and the 2speed transmission.

feel free to sniff around on my site perhaps it's usefull for you.

here is a movie of my way too heavy savage jumping.. with bashing keep away from the variaty of aluminum parts available. It gains weight which is harder on the parts. Platic bends back, aluminum doesn't.

[coolhandcountry]

The savage takes a little control in the air.
If you get the longer flm extended chassis. it flies much nicer.
Racing I think the emaxx has an advantage.
Bashing I think the savage is tougher.
If I was going to do another truck again. I wouldn't do either.
I like the monster gt by associated.

[neweuser]

Very nice Savage. Never have seen one fly like that! Very cool...I likes!

[Serum]

Thanks!

You can built up a savage fair easy. I made several motormounts for it, and they are easy to make.
My new project will be a lightweight savage. I like lightweight trucks..

[neweuser]

Yeah, i jsut weighed my gmaxx the other night without the batts, and it's(not very accurate scale i know) about 9lbs, just under. with batts 16 cells its at about 11lbs or so. i need a better scale, but that's not bad at all.