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06.11.2008, 01:16 AM

Sweet, be sure to post back on how it performs


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06.11.2008, 01:26 AM

Guys, you can check out on y build here: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12463

I just updated it with more pictures. As usual, any comments or tips are greatly appreciated.
   
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Hello,

Just to clarify, these are exactly the same inside as all of the newer Neu motors. All of the newer motors have an updated stator/rotor design to reduce cogging. It is not specific to our version, but rather a new thing for all Neu 1515 and some 1512 motors (not sure about the other sizes). Older Neu's will be harder to turn by hand. FYI :)


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Hello,

Just to clarify, these are exactly the same inside as all of the newer Neu motors. All of the newer motors have an updated stator/rotor design to reduce cogging. It is not specific to our version, but rather a new thing for all Neu 1515 and some 1512 motors (not sure about the other sizes). Older Neu's will be harder to turn by hand. FYI :)
Thanks for the clarification. I just receive my Neu today . However, on you website, you stated that a selection of winds will be available to suit 3, 4, 5, and 6s 1/8th scale buggy and truggy applications.How would I know which one I got since the motor did not come with anything (spec sheet, instruction etc)? I'll be running mine on 6S.
   
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06.11.2008, 10:18 AM

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I have to question your comment about machine wound - please post where you heard this information.

Straight on the Tekno RC website it posted that the motor is hand made:

* These are genuine hand-built Neu motors, not mass produced
Thanks for the clarification. I read it on this forum in one of the first threads about the new tekno Neu.

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Hello,

Just to clarify, these are exactly the same inside as all of the newer Neu motors. All of the newer motors have an updated stator/rotor design to reduce cogging. It is not specific to our version, but rather a new thing for all Neu 1515 and some 1512 motors (not sure about the other sizes). Older Neu's will be harder to turn by hand. FYI :)

With this info than, even though I have an older one, it sound like the newer versions would be better.
   
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06.11.2008, 10:31 AM

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With this info than, even though I have an older one, it sound like the newer versions would be better.
That what it sounds like but this phrase got me wondering: a selection of winds will be available to suit 3, 4, 5, and 6s 1/8th scale buggy and truggy applications.


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That what it sounds like but this phrase got me wondering: a selection of winds will be available to suit 3, 4, 5, and 6s 1/8th scale buggy and truggy applications.
Wye and Delta or number of windings?
   
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06.11.2008, 03:55 PM

So help an electric noob out. Why is the Neu 1515 1y 2200kv best run on 5s?
   
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06.11.2008, 04:25 PM

2200rpm * 4s * 4.2V/cell = 36,960rpm
2200rpm * 5s * 4.2V/cell = 46,200rpm
2200rpm * 6s * 4.2V/cell = 55,440rpm
neu says top limit is 60,000rpm

the closer to that limit, the more wear on the bearings.
   
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06.11.2008, 05:43 PM

But you're not going to get 4.2 volts per cell under full load.


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06.11.2008, 05:56 PM

Not only don't lipos stay at 4.2v/cell for very long at all, but any amount of current reduces the kv rating...
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i was just trying to teach a man to fish...
   
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06.12.2008, 04:20 AM

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i was just trying to teach a man to fish...
I think your fishing methods aren't correct.

Isn't the max RPM of a motor based on the size of the pack X the kv?

ie:

3s = 11.1v x 2200kv = 24420 RPM
4s = 14.8v x 2200kv = 32560 RPM
5s = 18.5v x 2200kv = 40700 RPM
6s = 22.2v x 2200kv = 48840 RPM

Or am I way off the mark here?


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06.12.2008, 04:26 AM

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I think your fishing methods aren't correct.

Isn't the max RPM of a motor based on the size of the pack X the kv?

ie:

3s = 11.1v x 2200kv = 24420 RPM
4s = 14.8v x 2200kv = 32560 RPM
5s = 18.5v x 2200kv = 40700 RPM
6s = 22.2v x 2200kv = 48840 RPM

Or am I way off the mark here?
That's what it says on Brian speed calculator .


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06.12.2008, 05:02 AM

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I think your fishing methods aren't correct.

Isn't the max RPM of a motor based on the size of the pack X the kv?

ie:

3s = 11.1v x 2200kv = 24420 RPM
4s = 14.8v x 2200kv = 32560 RPM
5s = 18.5v x 2200kv = 40700 RPM
6s = 22.2v x 2200kv = 48840 RPM

Or am I way off the mark here?
yeah...i think he was just using 4.2v instead of 3.7v

3s X 3.7 = 11.1 vs 3s X 4.2 = 12.6

but remember the max rpm of a motor is still limited by the quality of construction and size of the motor. In this case, we are talking about neu motors which have a max rpm recommendation of 60,000rpm. So take your max rpm and divide by your voltage to get the max kv rating.

60000 / 22.2 = 2702kv
now is this the end?....nope
while you CAN run the motor to 60000rpm, it doesn't mean you should. Running any motor at its max will most likely cause heat/efficency issues.

and here is where brian and others could probably school me...
...i have heard that its best to run these motors in the 40000-50000rpm range for best efficency.

which is why I bought the 1515/1Y to run on 6s (22.2 X 2200 = 48000rpm max) Only time will tell....
   
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