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RC-Monster Brushless
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06.11.2008, 01:16 AM
Sweet, be sure to post back on how it performs
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Supermaxx
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06.11.2008, 01:26 AM
Guys, you can check out on y build here: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12463
I just updated it with more pictures. As usual, any comments or tips are greatly appreciated.
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06.11.2008, 02:50 AM
Hello,
Just to clarify, these are exactly the same inside as all of the newer Neu motors. All of the newer motors have an updated stator/rotor design to reduce cogging. It is not specific to our version, but rather a new thing for all Neu 1515 and some 1512 motors (not sure about the other sizes). Older Neu's will be harder to turn by hand. FYI :)
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Supermaxx
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06.11.2008, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by teknorc
Hello,
Just to clarify, these are exactly the same inside as all of the newer Neu motors. All of the newer motors have an updated stator/rotor design to reduce cogging. It is not specific to our version, but rather a new thing for all Neu 1515 and some 1512 motors (not sure about the other sizes). Older Neu's will be harder to turn by hand. FYI :)
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Thanks for the clarification. I just receive my Neu today  . However, on you website, you stated that a selection of winds will be available to suit 3, 4, 5, and 6s 1/8th scale buggy and truggy applications.How would I know which one I got since the motor did not come with anything (spec sheet, instruction etc)? I'll be running mine on 6S.
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NeuMaxx
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06.11.2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by VintageMA
I have to question your comment about machine wound - please post where you heard this information.
Straight on the Tekno RC website it posted that the motor is hand made:
* These are genuine hand-built Neu motors, not mass produced
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Thanks for the clarification. I read it on this forum in one of the first threads about the new tekno Neu.
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Originally Posted by teknorc
Hello,
Just to clarify, these are exactly the same inside as all of the newer Neu motors. All of the newer motors have an updated stator/rotor design to reduce cogging. It is not specific to our version, but rather a new thing for all Neu 1515 and some 1512 motors (not sure about the other sizes). Older Neu's will be harder to turn by hand. FYI :)
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With this info than, even though I have an older one, it sound like the newer versions would be better.
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Supermaxx
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06.11.2008, 10:31 AM
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With this info than, even though I have an older one, it sound like the newer versions would be better.
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That what it sounds like but this phrase got me wondering: a selection of winds will be available to suit 3, 4, 5, and 6s 1/8th scale buggy and truggy applications.
Castle Neu 1520 on 6S LiPo Powered Gmaxx (Nitro Killer)
Predator with OS .21TM
Supermaxx with Mach .26
Revo with OS .18TZ
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NeuMaxx
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06.11.2008, 10:50 AM
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That what it sounds like but this phrase got me wondering: a selection of winds will be available to suit 3, 4, 5, and 6s 1/8th scale buggy and truggy applications.
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Wye and Delta or number of windings?
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NeuMaxx
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06.11.2008, 03:55 PM
So help an electric noob out. Why is the Neu 1515 1y 2200kv best run on 5s?
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06.11.2008, 04:25 PM
2200rpm * 4s * 4.2V/cell = 36,960rpm
2200rpm * 5s * 4.2V/cell = 46,200rpm
2200rpm * 6s * 4.2V/cell = 55,440rpm
neu says top limit is 60,000rpm
the closer to that limit, the more wear on the bearings.
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06.11.2008, 05:43 PM
But you're not going to get 4.2 volts per cell under full load.
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06.11.2008, 05:56 PM
Not only don't lipos stay at 4.2v/cell for very long at all, but any amount of current reduces the kv rating...
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06.11.2008, 07:41 PM
i was just trying to teach a man to fish...
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06.12.2008, 04:20 AM
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i was just trying to teach a man to fish...
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I think your fishing methods aren't correct.
Isn't the max RPM of a motor based on the size of the pack X the kv?
ie:
3s = 11.1v x 2200kv = 24420 RPM
4s = 14.8v x 2200kv = 32560 RPM
5s = 18.5v x 2200kv = 40700 RPM
6s = 22.2v x 2200kv = 48840 RPM
Or am I way off the mark here?
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06.12.2008, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozzy
I think your fishing methods aren't correct.
Isn't the max RPM of a motor based on the size of the pack X the kv?
ie:
3s = 11.1v x 2200kv = 24420 RPM
4s = 14.8v x 2200kv = 32560 RPM
5s = 18.5v x 2200kv = 40700 RPM
6s = 22.2v x 2200kv = 48840 RPM
Or am I way off the mark here? 
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That's what it says on Brian speed calculator  .
Castle Neu 1520 on 6S LiPo Powered Gmaxx (Nitro Killer)
Predator with OS .21TM
Supermaxx with Mach .26
Revo with OS .18TZ
Kyosho ST-RR Conversion
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06.12.2008, 05:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mozzy
I think your fishing methods aren't correct.
Isn't the max RPM of a motor based on the size of the pack X the kv?
ie:
3s = 11.1v x 2200kv = 24420 RPM
4s = 14.8v x 2200kv = 32560 RPM
5s = 18.5v x 2200kv = 40700 RPM
6s = 22.2v x 2200kv = 48840 RPM
Or am I way off the mark here? 
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yeah...i think he was just using 4.2v instead of 3.7v
3s X 3.7 = 11.1 vs 3s X 4.2 = 12.6
but remember the max rpm of a motor is still limited by the quality of construction and size of the motor. In this case, we are talking about neu motors which have a max rpm recommendation of 60,000rpm. So take your max rpm and divide by your voltage to get the max kv rating.
60000 / 22.2 = 2702kv
now is this the end?....nope
while you CAN run the motor to 60000rpm, it doesn't mean you should. Running any motor at its max will most likely cause heat/efficency issues.
and here is where brian and others could probably school me...
...i have heard that its best to run these motors in the 40000-50000rpm range for best efficency.
which is why I bought the 1515/1Y to run on 6s (22.2 X 2200 = 48000rpm max) Only time will tell....
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