LOSI LST XXL Conversion ideas

[jpoprock]

You know what... it just dawned on me that my rear arms, shocks, sway is BACKWARDS! And you know what... it drives and rides like a dream. I wonder if there is something to that?? Oops!! I am fairly new to Losi, and didn't catch that little mistake! That's funny though!

[jpoprock]

You know... I had an idea for the ELST/XXL... but I have no ability to draw it out. I envisioned like side splash guards that bolt to the bottom of the chassis, using longer screws, but existing screw holes, and looking at the bottom of the chassis, it would appear that the guards came out about a half inch, then flair up about two or so inches. There should be enough clearance so it doesn't hit the spur gear. But what this may do, is prevent debris from splashing up onto the top of the chassis. LST bodies are so wide to account for the gear cover and pipe, that a lexan type splash guard on either side would really do the trick I think. It may also act as a side guard for crashes.

However... this idea doesn't involve side battery trays. it's for those who mount their batteries across the chassis (which I feel makes the truck unbalanced personally). If using side battery trays, you could still make side guards to fit in conjunction with the battery trays.

Does this make sense? As I said, I wish I could draw it. I could make a mock up out of cardboard though and take a picture...

j

[mistercrash]

Originally Posted by jpoprock

Does this make sense?

Yep it makes perfect sense and I think it's a great idea.

I have some money coming my way and I am watching for used but clean LST XXLs on the web. I thought of Laser eye surgery again instead but at 95% success rate, I still don't trust it enough.

I just had my eyes sliced and diced and laser perfected on 1/13/10 over here in the metro Detroit area. Get it done before you're too old. I highly recommend it!

[JThiessen]

Just get an LST2 roller, then buy a XXL chassis off ebay. I got mine for 12 bucks shipped.

[jpoprock]

Yeah, get an LST2 roller and an XXL chassis on Ebay (Jenny's RC) and swap the stuff over. However, you will need to score some XXL diffs too. I don't think the LST2 has the good diff's in them.

[jpoprock]

Originally Posted by jpoprock

Yeah, get an LST2 roller and an XXL chassis on Ebay (Jenny's RC) and swap the stuff over. However, you will need to score some XXL diffs too. I don't think the LST2 has the good diff's in them.

No, I'm pretty sure that the XXL diff's have the HD cups in them already, but I know for sure that the older LST diff's don't. In fact, I believe that if the diff's are blue, they have the HD cups in them. If they are silver, they don't. That's if you are buying them on eBay with the shafts and all. XXL Diff's have the black center shafts which are longer than the silver LST2 shafts.

I know for a fact that the blue XXL diff's have HD cups in them, because I took one apart and I was thrown off by the fact that it had those retainer square pieces in them, where my LST diff's didn't. The cups are still plastic though.

So... is this right then?? I'm sure that I'm not confusing my XXL diff w/ my RCM Hybrid Revo diff.

Thanks!
Jason

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by jpoprock

No, I'm pretty sure that the XXL diff's have the HD cups in them already, but I know for sure that the older LST diff's don't. In fact, I believe that if the diff's are blue, they have the HD cups in them. If they are silver, they don't. That's if you are buying them on eBay with the shafts and all. XXL Diff's have the black center shafts which are longer than the silver LST2 shafts.

I know for a fact that the blue XXL diff's have HD cups in them, because I took one apart and I was thrown off by the fact that it had those retainer square pieces in them, where my LST diff's didn't. The cups are still plastic though.

So... is this right then?? I'm sure that I'm not confusing my XXL diff w/ my RCM Hybrid Revo diff.

Thanks!
Jason

Your confusing yourself trying to find an easy way to see what they have. The ONLY way to know what diff you have in your hand is to take it apart. My original LST had the blue alum cases, and NOT HD diffs. My Muggy also had the blue aluminum cases and NOT HD diffs.

To find out what each model comes with requires looking at the parts list for each model.

ps. You need to send me a pm, 'cause at this point I am not stopping at the post office on the way home tonight....

[MikeW]

I think the Diffs are the same, I blew 2 XXL diffs so far, and I'm running LPR's not the XXL tires....

[JThiessen]

Yep - diff's are the same. Only other thing you'l need are the XXL center shafts, also readily available on ebay - however, most chop shops seem to be selling those with the diff's.

[mistercrash]

It seems that more and more people on ebay are using Auction Snipers, It is getting difficult to win an auction. I just missed out on a sweet XXL with a lot of extras. That auction sniper outbid me automatically. But these auction snipers have one drawback I would say, when the sniper user is faced with a guy like me, the sniper user ends up paying more for a used XXL than a new one.

$680 he or she will have to pay Plus $50 shipping. I hope it's not someone from RCM. But it did have a lot of extra parts and tools so maybe it is justified.

[jpoprock]

I am a sniper, and I usually never over pay. I use it out of convenience so I don't have to be at my computer to bid. I'm too busy.

I always thought that the blue XXL diff cases had HD cups in them, and the LST2 diff's use plastic cups?

Also, I'm now not so sure that my rear arms aren't backwards, but that the pinkish XXL shown in this thread (can't remember the user name), is wrong. Haven't looked at the stock pix. But both of. My Losi's are this way.

[JThiessen]

XXL uses inner cup #B3537 and B3532 outer, the LST2 uses the same numbers. Now there is an optional HD inner case and gear set that you can get which has steel plates for the cross pins - but the cup is still plastic. I did this upgrade on mine.

[mistercrash]

Yes those HD diff cups are very strong. I have a few of them left since they are what I used to make the E-Revo center diffs with. Now I have been shopping around for either a XXL or a LST2 and I see a lot of different prices for them. I have no idea of a reasonnable price for a used LST.

Can someone tell me what to look for let's say:

A used XXL complete - how much?
A used XXL roller - how much?
A used LST2 complete - How much?
A used LST2 roller - How much?

I have no idea how much these things are worth used. I could do with a LST2 since I already have the HD diffs, a XXL chassis, a XXL body and XXL middle shafts.

Thanks

[mistercrash]

Well I finally bought an LST2. It's a roller that was never used, brand new.

I already have:

- XXL chassis
- XXL body
- XXL diffs complete with blue cases and long shafts

When I paid for the LST2 on ebay, I went shopping for other stuff that might come in handy. Stuff like:

- RCM Drive Cups - Hardened Steel. I got 4 of those, 2 for spares
- Some Turnigy thick heat shrink tubing for batteries. I want to try those.
- Complete set of parts needed for the Muggy steering set up
- A 3 mm by 9'' X 11.85'' sheet of CF
- A 2.5 mm by 9'' X 14'' sheet of CF
- A JR DS8711 Ultra Torque SX Digital Servo
- A Neu 1521 1Y 5mm shaft motor (I wish I could have bought this from Mike also but he was out of stock and I was in a ''shopping gotta get it NOW'' kinda mood.
- Losi 17 mm wheel hex conversion
- Losi LST2 sway bar kit
- I also went ahead and ordered new tips for my hex wrenches.

The wife is going to flip

So where's the new LST forum? Did I miss the official opening?

I don't know when I will be able to start the build, my garage is a mess and I have to build a backyard shed to move a lot of stuff out of the garage so that I can start organizing it as a workshop. Which means electrical work, plumbing, insulating, dry walling, heating, etc. A lot of work.