Hippie has a new ride

[Serum]

It only takes one smart man to make a change in this! it's not generalized in an entire country. If a top-notch personal driven engineering team from China with the right contacts has the best idea, it will out-preform every single product in the world. It's not a matter of being produced in a certain country. In china Man can get the best materials /machines just as well.

I'm gonna have to differ on the group selections mentioned earlier.
SRAM shifting is not as great as you make it seem nor is that much
betters. For starters not everyone is a fan of their push/push
shifting system and shimano offers both push/pull and push/push on
their shifter pods.

Also I'm not sure where you got your 500g less number from but I can
assure you no similarly priced SRAM group compared shaman is 500g
less. The SRAM x-0 vs shaman xtr is def not 500g lighter. Not to
mention the price tag alone on a replacement x-0 cassette makes the
SRAM system pointless in my book.

From an AM/DH perspective I laugh when you see bikes running the same
lightweight compents as cross country bikes ... SRAM has yet to come
out with a SAINT rival group.

And sure the XX group from SRAM might be the lightest group put there
and the only 2x10 for mtb but the new xtr will change that ... And
still let users decoded between 2 or 3 gears up front.

[Serum]

I'm talking about the road group. (as a reply to the previous post)

ultegra vs force. same price here, 500 grams difference.

It's plain obvious we are totally different type of bikers. for my cross-country/on road habits sram rocks/rules. It's proven to me over quite a lot of hours i spend every year on a bike that it's a proper quality as well.

It's not a matter of 'being fan' (push-push shifting) it's a matter of getting used to it. Principles are a lousy way to defend.

And what exactly is your point with the x-o cassette? it's not that expensive. XTR is more expensive. (over here anyway) I guess you mean the XX cassette?

I advised you on the road-group since this is superiour to the ultegra in terms of shifting, and since you mentioned weight as a factor i mentioned the group with the better weight.

Me personally, i am a fan of good products. For some parts shimano rules, and others Sram rules. Step over the fact that it's not 'your brand'
Don't follow, decide self what suits you best. I know i did, and for a fact i hate srams red front deraileur with titanium cage. I like the force better.

Go out, pedal and have fun, on your own way. That's what counts. The smile you put on your face when you enjoy driving it gives a better satisfaction than laughing about other people's bikes..

i have both.

your right i dont ride on a road bike much, but that is soon to change with the build of this new china carbon bike... should be interesting to see how this progresses.

For me the sram shifting does not compare to that of my shimano... but of course its comparing apples to oranges as my Dirt Jump bike has X5 shifters and X9 rear derailleur, and the bike in the picture above has XTR everything.

I havent driven a car in almost 3 yrs, and have only biked. Its my only means of commuting and you will find me doing 60miles round trip just to run my rc at a track, so i def put a lot of miles on my bike, and like you said I run what feels best / works the best for me =P

[Serum]

We agree to disagree then,

Do me/yourself a favor and try the sram force road 2010 group. It's not as bad as you think it is.

Has your new frame got BB30? that's an easy way to shave of another 100 grams. :)

nah no bb30 here.

Im playing mooch with my road bike and my friend just got the complete SRAM RED group on his cervelo RS, so he said i could have the stock group that came on the bike (ultegra/DA) which uses the reg 68 bb style... so i went with that...

[tedo]

Nice ride Hippie.

I too enjoy cycling, and can totally justify 4k on a bike. My 88 toyota truck has only put on 2500 miles since January!

I used to work on Giant and Sram at my old design job. Our design studio rebranded Giant in 2006, introduced Sram's Rival, Force, Red, XX, X0 - X7...
Fun stuff.

I am currently building a touring bike with all the 100+ miles of goodies and confort.

As of now, I own:
1. Giant Reign X - All Mountain, Freeride. This is the best bike I have ever owned for mtning biking. Beefy enough for chairlift acces, yet pedal friendly for XC. BTW, it's a 1:9

2. Santacruz Chameleon Single Speed (fully rigid).

3. Giant Transport Utility bike. Has front and rear racks that are super strong. They only sold these in the US for 1 year (2008 I believe).

4. On One track bike for commuting 10 miles a day. Say what you must about fix gears, however I have owned this bike since 2000, and a good clean 1:1 direct drive bike is a great commuter.

Again Hippie and everyone else here: Keep riding. Keeps us fit!

[reno911]

What would be a recommendation for something to ride to work?

I'm roughly a couple miles from work and have been seriously contemplating a bicycle purchase, or smaller transportation. I have been looking at the foldable or collapsable models by Dahon. More noticeably the Matrix by Dahon. It is a good size, street tires, as well as disk breaks. I have not decided as of yet if I wanted to purchase something like this or something of the already powered notion like a honda ruckus.

[reno911]

My biggest peeve with bikers is how they all wear those triathlon clothes no matter where they are going. Seriously, if your going for a leisure bike ride around town do you need to be all fitted up as if in the tour de france? Don't get me wrong, when I see bikers going hardcore on certain streets it all makes sense, but to be strolling through side streets looking like Lance, come on!

[rchippie]

Originally Posted by reno911

My biggest peeve with bikers is how they all wear those triathlon clothes no matter where they are going. Seriously, if your going for a leisure bike ride around town do you need to be all fitted up as if in the tour de france? Don't get me wrong, when I see bikers going hardcore on certain streets it all makes sense, but to be strolling through side streets looking like Lance, come on!

Reno most people wear the shorts for a reason. There is padding in them & they make the ride more comfortable. Plus there are other advantages when wearing the shorts. The jersey acctually keep you cool. Because they wick the sweat away from your body & the helmet saves your noggin in a crash.

[Serum]

Reno... Arh, for the same reason you dress up nice during the weekend wearing your pink mini-skirts and high heels. It just feels great.

It's all to avoid the dead hamster.

A true biker knows that a 16-17 mph average can be a better workout than a 25mph avg. it's a mixed balance of racing and training.

Going fast doesn't mean you are doing a good workout. (which doesn't mean a fast training can't be good from time to time too.)

[reno911]

I was kidding, it really doesn't bother me.

But seriously!

Serum do you live in Reno?

[Serum]

Serum do you live in Reno

Sorry, i thought you meant Rio!

No, i'm from a different part on this planet.

[reno911]

Originally Posted by Serum

Sorry, i thought you meant Rio!

No, i'm from a different part on this planet.

Than how do you know what I wear on the weekends?

I imagine there is some drag involved in road biking/racing and the aerodynamic-ness of the clothing one wears can assist in reducing this drag. All the other things as for the wicking and such are very liable reasons for wearing. I was just being a smart arse!

[Serum]

I've got a large glass ball, that tells me nothing but the uncolored truth!

at some parts biking is pure narcism, have you seen the saddles we use on these things!?
seriously though, i figured you meant it as a joke. (and so was i..) worse part is that i need to explain it though.. (oo,)