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10.05.2011, 11:04 AM
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BrianG - I agree that a pot is theoretically infinatly variable within its travel, but controlling 35HP in rocky terrain with only 90 degrees of twist can be quite the challenge - remember I am using the same hand to hold on! The controller itself may be part of the problem, too - I just know there has to be a better system than what i currently have. This is not to say what i have isn't good - in fact it is quite awesome in most regards - just that overall control could be improved upon.
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How about adding some resistance (making it physically harder to twist, not electrical resistance) on your current twist throttle? I'm thinking that making it a little harder to twist will reduce that twitchiness, similar to how the steering control works on a Spektrum transmitter.
What about a thumb-style switch? While shopping for e-bikes, thumb and twist seem to be two main options. I know from riding my mountain bike (pedal only, no assist), I greatly prefer thumb gear changing exactly for the reason you state.
After thinking a bit more, do you think that adding more than 90* of twist action will cause excessive wrist articulation making it even harder to control?
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10.05.2011, 11:27 AM
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I am not getting out of RC anytime soon, Larry - no worries, there. Before RC was my job, it was my hobby. Now that RC is my job, I have simply expanded my other hobbies to keep myself from going off the deep end. As Brian said, what used to be custom stuff is becoming mainstream - at one time I was the only guy making electric conversion stuff but the big dogs are in the mix now(major manufacturers). I am not dumb enough to think I can compete on price with the industry giants (on quality or innovation I try to hold my own, but volume dictates price and I have got nowhere near the volume of the big dogs). I also make my parts here in the USA and therefore pay my help fair wages - it simply costs me more to produce parts. I could go to Asia for parts like everyone else, but I would rather not.
As long as I can stay afloat doing what I like to do, then I am rich(may never be wealthy, but I am OK with that). I may dabble in other areas to stay in business as well as simply expand my knowledge - I have always been into motorcycles(street and dirt) and have always owned at least one motorcycle my entire adult life - this is an obvious avenue to explore, just like RC was 8 years ago when I went into business. :)
BrianG - I agree that a pot is theoretically infinatly variable within its travel, but controlling 35HP in rocky terrain with only 90 degrees of twist can be quite the challenge - remember I am using the same hand to hold on! The controller itself may be part of the problem, too - I just know there has to be a better system than what i currently have. This is not to say what i have isn't good - in fact it is quite awesome in most regards - just that overall control could be improved upon.
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You could attach it to a spectrum RX and have the "other half" control the throttle whilst you ride it
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Guelph, Canada, eh!
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10.05.2011, 01:20 PM
Sorry Mike, I edited my post, I have a question in there now lol
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10.05.2011, 01:38 PM
Mike - the bike started life as an electric bike. It had an Etek motor and 4 16AH Hawker Lead batteris. It was built in Oregon in 2004. It was then converted to 72 volt by adding 2 more lead batteries(about 13 ound each). Then, the Etek motor was swapped for a pmg motor(slightly larger, lower Kv) to get back to stock speed(60 mph with the Etek motor). Finally it was converted to 74 volt 30AH Lipo setup shown here. The bike is kind of a hybrid - it uses premium downhill Mountain bike parts to keep it light(Marzocchi super monster tubes for front suspension, 24" MTB wheels/tires and Hayes brakes, though now has Hope M6 brakes). The bike weighed about 165 pounds stock - about 155 pounds or so now. The bike was always electric, though - just wasn't always as light and powerful as it is now! :)
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10.05.2011, 02:19 PM
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Mike - the bike started life as an electric bike. It had an Etek motor and 4 16AH Hawker Lead batteris. It was built in Oregon in 2004. It was then converted to 72 volt by adding 2 more lead batteries(about 13 ound each). Then, the Etek motor was swapped for a pmg motor(slightly larger, lower Kv) to get back to stock speed(60 mph with the Etek motor). Finally it was converted to 74 volt 30AH Lipo setup shown here. The bike is kind of a hybrid - it uses premium downhill Mountain bike parts to keep it light(Marzocchi super monster tubes for front suspension, 24" MTB wheels/tires and Hayes brakes, though now has Hope M6 brakes). The bike weighed about 165 pounds stock - about 155 pounds or so now. The bike was always electric, though - just wasn't always as light and powerful as it is now! :)
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Cool. I thought some of the parts looked like downhill bike parts in particular, the shocks & the wheels. Are you going to offer these in your store  .
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10.05.2011, 01:41 PM
Man, Mike's bike makes my ebike look like a punk.
Awesome ride Mike!
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GTP-Pletty Big Maxximum+RX8. GTP-C50-6L Hacker+RX8. CRT.5-Pro4+ZTW esc.
24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
18s4p Raptor 60mph Ebike. 11.5KW
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10.05.2011, 02:35 PM
Yes, I know you were making jokes, Mike - but in all seriousness...I do want to make something like this happen one day. :)
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10.05.2011, 03:05 PM
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Yes, I know you were making jokes, Mike - but in all seriousness...I do want to make something like this happen one day. :)
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What would you name it ?.
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10.05.2011, 03:18 PM
LOL - no idea what to call it - I gotta make something first!
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10.05.2011, 03:41 PM
RC-Monster Bike made by RC-Monster Mike. Or, the Mike-Bike
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10.05.2011, 04:42 PM
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RC-Monster Bike made by RC-Monster Mike. Or, the Mike-Bike 
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You have to call it the MIKE Bike   .
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10.05.2011, 07:51 PM
Mike -bike is pretty good, also the Chroninator E-bike, amybe even the BBM (Brushless blue monster) Mike, I never got an estimate on range with your battery setup.
One thing i noticed about this thread, Most start as good threads and turn to worthless chatter eventually, This one started almost worthless, and became constructive. Wierd
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
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working on a brushless for my wheelchair.....
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10.06.2011, 01:16 AM
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One thing i noticed about this thread, Most start as good threads and turn to worthless chatter eventually, This one started almost worthless, and became constructive. Wierd
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That was my plan all along
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It's "Dr. _paralyzed_" actually. Not like with a PhD, but Doctor like in Dr. Pepper.
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Guelph, Canada, eh!
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10.06.2011, 09:22 AM
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That was my plan all along 
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Thank you for posting yet another worthless thread sir
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10.06.2011, 10:45 AM
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That was my plan all along 
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I think this is probably the most productive thread you have ever posted if I am to be completely honest here!
I like the Mike-Bike name. It works, and is catchy.
I can see myself out riding one day and someone asks whats that?
I say it's a Mike-Bike.
They will never forget the name and that makes it easier for people to find and buy.
If I say, it's an RC-Monster Bike, alas, they will get confused and forget. Is it an RC bike and a Monster too? Well, it's not huge like a monster and it's not radio controlled so...........
See, confusion.
I can say I would be proud to ride a Mike-Bike one day!
Right now I do have my eyes on this for keeping in my car and cruising around the neighborhood on:
http://superscootersales.com/?wpsc-p...o-1000-lithium
It also comes with a 48v 12ah LifePo pack! Supposed to be good for up to 32 MPH......
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