New traxxas castle mamba monster extreme?

[Unsullied_Spy]

The interface is very cool, the problem comes from having to have proprietary hardware to unlock what you already paid for. I'm certainly not buying an iPhone just to unlock it and everyone I know either has a Droid, off-brand smartphone, or the basic phone they give you for free and it's a bit odd asking someone to loan you their phone so you can download an app to it for your RC truck.

25C lipos in a 100 MPH car sound like a recipe for disaster, but they include NiMHs for the Brushless Revos and E-Maxxes as well as the Spartan boat.

[coolhandcountry]

My question is, who else is going to follow?
I mean this is a great thing but others will watch and see how it turns out.
Maybe this is a new battle for the customers to benefit from.
I like the looks of the car.
Won't do me a bit of good though.

[Unsullied_Spy]

Other Traxxas models will, for sure, be getting this implemented into it and it will become another thing that separates Traxxas from the mainstream (such as the waterproof capabilities and catering towards first-time buyers and bashers). Will other companies follow? That would depend a lot on Castle's deal with Traxxas. HPI sources their brushless technology out to Castle, and if Castle is allowed to sell HPI this ESC then I can see adopting this technology. Losi I could see trying to implement their own form of this system. Anyone else I'd bet it would be a while, they'd likely wait until it has been worked out better and cheaper to implement into their designs.

[fastbaja5b]

Well if it can do 100mph on the 25C packs, how long until Maxamps says that their 150C packs will make it go faster again?

Face it we're not the target consumer, the target consumer is the average American who's cashed up, doesn't go on the forums, doesn't race, hacks around occasionally, has a skill level of 2 but thinks they have a skill level of 100++

...same target consumer as Max Amps

[e-mike]

well long time that ive post on here,,...even if the esc is rated to 300amps alot of guy's will toast it anyway....that include me

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b

Well if it can do 100mph on the 25C packs, how long until Maxamps says that their 150C packs will make it go faster again?

Face it we're not the target consumer, the target consumer is the average American who's cashed up, doesn't go on the forums, doesn't race, hacks around occasionally, has a skill level of 2 but thinks they have a skill level of 100++

...same target consumer as Max Amps

finally someone whos straight up about this!No doubt though thunder power 65c will make this go 110 easy,easy but also make it a one pass car.

[BrianG]

Question for Patrick:

Does the lockout feature interfere with the timing and torque control settings on the ESC itself if just the Castle Link is used (no iDevice is connected)? Meaning, if I set the torque control to X and timing to Y, does the lockout limit them to something like X/2 and Y/2?

I would understand if you don't want to answer as you are probably going to see what I'm getting at.

[fastbaja5b]

I would have thought that as an 'expert' car Mechanical brakes would have been in order, what expert needs reverse? And it'd be a LOT easier on the ESC and save a lot of potential warranty claims from ripple current under brakes (extra caps help but why not do all you can, a 1717 stopping from 100mph is bound to put a bit of stress on things.)

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b

I would have thought that as an 'expert' car Mechanical brakes would have been in order, what expert needs reverse? And it'd be a LOT easier on the ESC and save a lot of potential warranty claims from ripple current under brakes (extra caps help but why not do all you can, a 1717 stopping from 100mph is bound to put a bit of stress on things.)

everyone need to remember this car wasn't made for people here, it was made for the above average user, around here we are nuts so you all need to stop over thinking it, the car was brought to market in a package that was affordable, not perfect

[fastbaja5b]

Originally Posted by Semi Pro

everyone need to remember this car wasn't made for people here, it was made for the above average user, around here we are nuts so you all need to stop over thinking it, the car was brought to market in a package that was affordable, not perfect

....or the below average user with a pocket full of cash and way too high an opinion of themselves.

Dunno if I'd label myself an above average user though

At the very least it's going to be interesting how the first of these that hit the market do.

I want to see an eagletree of the voltage drops those batteries get under a 300 amp load!

[Unsullied_Spy]

Very good stuff here, reading some of the stuff over on the TRX forum after not going there for ~1-2 years has reminded me a lot of the kind of people that forum has. Good to be back here though!

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Ummm, well, I can't comment. I'm really sorry, but I can't.

We understand, no harsh feelings. Could you perhaps tell us what would happen if, say, the little speed sensor got "damaged" in a "bad crash" and was no longer attached? Would we have to send back the electronics to have it repaired or would the ESC function without it (minus the telemetry, of course).

The only "review" I've seen of the Traxxas lipos was from The Jang where he hooked them up to a string of light bulbs and didn't do a particularly good comparison but it looked like they weren't bad. The warranty is going to be the selling point for them, without that you can spend less money for the same performance but if you get a bad cell/pack you're stuck with it with cheaper lipos.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Question for Patrick:

Does the lockout feature interfere with the timing and torque control settings on the ESC itself if just the Castle Link is used (no iDevice is connected)? Meaning, if I set the torque control to X and timing to Y, does the lockout limit them to something like X/2 and Y/2?

I would understand if you don't want to answer as you are probably going to see what I'm getting at.

Ummm, well, I can't comment. I'm really sorry, but I can't.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Ummm, well, I can't comment. I'm really sorry, but I can't.

I figured. Can't hurt to try!

[lincpimp]

I am not sure if you guys really get it yet...

This thing has a 16" wheelbase and is 27" long. It runs 1/8 scale buggy wheels and tires. I do not think they will afford enough grip to make this car wheely, so it will likely easily spin the tires. That will limit the largest amp draw situation a rc CAR encounters, standing starts with alot of traction. Can it do 300amps? Maybe, but not for very long at all, that would be 6660 watts or 8.9hp... I just do not see 1/8 buggy tires being able to put that kind of power down.

Also, the bulk of experince with the MMM so far has been in monster trucks. Tire/wheel weight is at least 3 times as much compared to the x0-1 tires/wheels.

Braking will not be an issue, as traction will just not be there.

I highly doubt the power system will have any issues, a 10lb car with buggy tires that will not be jumped or off road bashed will lead an easier life than a MT does.

The 25c lipos could be an issue, but if they are "true" 25c then they can output 3.5hp continuous. I would be more worried about the traxxas connectors, but the average amp draw may not be that high.

I am sure a good 40c lipo with 6.5mm bullets will help with acceleration, but that brings us back to the amount of grip offered by the tires. If you are running on cold concrete there will not be much grip. Warm asphalt will be better.

You guys are overthinking this. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

[_paralyzed_]

Maybe you are just under thinking things Linc.

As far as traxxas lipos- don't the crazy mah numbers match up with max amps crazy mah numbers? I'm going digging...