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RC-Monster Titanium
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04.26.2008, 05:12 PM
any plans on doing the hyper 8.5 or hyper 9? I am thinking of picking one of them up? thanks
Kyosho SC, tekin rs, D3 17.5
Hyper 9e, mmp,tekin 1900kv
Associated sc10 4x4, novak 4.5
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04.26.2008, 05:19 PM
Sorted. Time to go buy some 10g wire and 5.5mm bullets to make some series Y leads then. Cheers Patrick!
One more thing though: on the subject of FET ratings and exaggerated figures- the hvmaxx is rated at 400amps (  ), any chance you know what its more likely to be rated at?... I've always wondered.
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Something, anything, nothing
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04.26.2008, 05:29 PM
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So should I:
1. Give a real-world continuous and burst current rating that will make the MMM look anemic against competitors controllers when in fact the MMM will handle much more current than the competition?
or
2. Give a BS rating on the same scale as the competition which will allow customers to comparison shop on a level field, but are really totally BS numbers?
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3. Just don't rate a continuous and peak rating because option 1 misleads some consumers and option 2 misleads other consumers?
Thanks for listening to me rant!!!
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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I think number 1 is best, but I still understand your dilemma.
I think giving several setup examples with motor/voltage/performance information for several of the most popular vehicles would be good.
You had something similar for the MM and for most novices, that was helpful. As far as performance over the competitor, that will all be proven once these things hit the streets.
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Check out my huge box!
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04.26.2008, 05:29 PM
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Our Emaxx draws about 100A average, and about 800A during acceleration (for about a second or so), and the MMM handles it fine. (better than the motor in fact.) And it will take full throttle/ full brake / full throttle/ full brake continuously for as long as you want to do it on a system that will go 70mph on either an Emaxx or an 1/8 scale buggy, outputting about 2250 watts average and almost 10,000 watts peak.
Patrick del Castillo
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Jesus, 100amps cont! Am I correct in thinking this is at 6s voltage (22.2?)?
What batteries do you have that can keep up with this load? Do they hold voltage well under these kinds of loads?
Seeing an emaxx do 70 must be cool. You guys need to add that vid to the MMM listing (or whatever it is now called)!
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04.26.2008, 05:56 PM
Patrick,
Have you tried the BSC082N10? Would it be possible to make a 12S Monster Max. I just need an HV from a company in the USA. Please don't make me start begging or sign my soul for one  . I know this isn't much, but a few people want a 12S or maybe more for car use: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10609.
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04.26.2008, 06:03 PM
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Patrick,
Have you tried the BSC082N10? Would it be possible to make a 12S Monster Max. I just need an HV from a company in the USA. Please don't make me start begging or sign my soul for one  . I know this isn't much, but a few people want a 12S or maybe more for car use: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10609.
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Yeah, we started with the BSC082N10 about a year ago on the SHV design. Found it had the same issues (even worse actually) as the BSC079
But that's OK, the BSC118N10 works fine, and handles almost as much current as the other two.
Now, a 12S controller only needs a 60V FET, not 100V.
One possibility is that I'm working on the 60V (12s) Phoenix-ICE controller line right now, and it will have the hardware support for Mamba type software (the current Phoenix-HV does not have similar hardware to the Mamba line.)
Patrick
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04.26.2008, 06:31 PM
Sounds good! I will test it to the limits. Mine is going in a 15 pound Savage X with a 1527 1D motor. I actually bought 2 Monsters because I am going to torture the first into failure. Man, what a great time to be in RC!
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04.26.2008, 06:32 PM
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Yeah, we started with the BSC082N10 about a year ago on the SHV design. Found it had the same issues (even worse actually) as the BSC079
But that's OK, the BSC118N10 works fine, and handles almost as much current as the other two.
Now, a 12S controller only needs a 60V FET, not 100V.
One possibility is that I'm working on the 60V (12s) Phoenix-ICE controller line right now, and it will have the hardware support for Mamba type software (the current Phoenix-HV does not have similar hardware to the Mamba line.)
Patrick
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Ok. The Phoenix-ICE sounds good. Will the SHV support the Mamba software as well. I just heard that my F1 will be in the next shipment to the US and I will use my 2 10S1P A123 and my 2 10S1P Bosch packs with it and I would like to use them for this F1.
Edit: I only mentioned the 100V mainly because I haven't seen a 60V in that package.
Last edited by lutach; 04.26.2008 at 09:08 PM.
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04.26.2008, 06:39 PM
Awesome rant Pat, a little touch of the industry fluff there.
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That's All Folks!
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04.26.2008, 09:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pdelcast
Yeah, we started with the BSC082N10 about a year ago on the SHV design. Found it had the same issues (even worse actually) as the BSC079
But that's OK, the BSC118N10 works fine, and handles almost as much current as the other two.
Now, a 12S controller only needs a 60V FET, not 100V.
One possibility is that I'm working on the 60V (12s) Phoenix-ICE controller line right now, and it will have the hardware support for Mamba type software (the current Phoenix-HV does not have similar hardware to the Mamba line.)
Patrick
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So, a Mamba-ICE would just be a matter of programming...SWEET!
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04.26.2008, 09:15 PM
Patrick, first let me say thanks on behalf of all of us who have been waiting patiently for the MMM! I of course have one on order and when it arrives, I'll be very happy. You guys are doing the entire electric side of the hobby a huge service.
Looking at the photos of the E-Revo with your system installed it made me long for yet another un-released product...your Castle "flavored" Neu motors...they just look so sweet and the buzz about your RC Car/Truck specific changes make me want to hold out for one and NOT buy a true-blue Neu designed around aircraft specs...how long is the wait till yours ship? If it's going to be soon, I'll likely wait, if not I may give in and get the real thing.
Regardless, thank you.
DM
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04.26.2008, 09:48 PM
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Patrick, first let me say thanks on behalf of all of us who have been waiting patiently for the MMM! I of course have one on order and when it arrives, I'll be very happy. You guys are doing the entire electric side of the hobby a huge service.
Looking at the photos of the E-Revo with your system installed it made me long for yet another un-released product...your Castle "flavored" Neu motors...they just look so sweet and the buzz about your RC Car/Truck specific changes make me want to hold out for one and NOT buy a true-blue Neu designed around aircraft specs...how long is the wait till yours ship? If it's going to be soon, I'll likely wait, if not I may give in and get the real thing.
Regardless, thank you.
DM
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DM,
I believe we will have the Neu style motors in about six weeks, but I'm not 100% positive. I'm going to visit our factory in China on May 1st, and I'll be back May 8th. I'll have a better idea of when the motors will be available when I get back.
Patrick
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I don't understand, but I don't think I like it.
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04.26.2008, 09:58 PM
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DM,
I believe we will have the Neu style motors in about six weeks, but I'm not 100% positive. I'm going to visit our factory in China on May 1st, and I'll be back May 8th. I'll have a better idea of when the motors will be available when I get back.
Patrick
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If you need me to fill in for you when you are gone, I will. The shop does have wheelchair access, right? Just let me know where you want the holes in the fence. LOL JMWY
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04.26.2008, 10:10 PM
Patrick, how hard would it be to put car software on a HV-110?
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04.26.2008, 10:56 PM
Hey Patrick, can you please confirm the Mamba Monster bullets and wires? What exactly will it come with on this first run? I already soldered 5.5mm connectors on my Neu 1515.
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