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10.27.2010, 03:29 PM

http://www.bigsquidrc.com/li-po-batt...final-results/

For 25 bucks, Zippy's performed about where I would expect them. For a price vs. performance based on that test you really can't beat them for general all around bashing. For racing? Results may vary.

RCBox.com doesn't exist, or at least not anymore. :)

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I know off the top of my head Big Squid tested some cheaper LiPos and they performed poorly. I also believe rcbox.com did as well. Chat soon - Brandon
   
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The price matching was discontinued. However you could still call Austin at 888-654-4450 and he might be able to do something for you.

I will address the power supply thread shortly. I have a lot of work to get done this week so please be patient with me as I post up new graphs/tests/videos/responses.

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10.27.2010, 01:06 PM

I'd have to say that the power supply thread is a little overboard. Do a little work and get it for $20 (I did) - or buy a MA supply now for cheaper than you can get one with those specs anywhere else retail (as far as I know). I really don't think MA needs to defend itself over that power supply.
   
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10.27.2010, 05:32 PM

I believe it's called MyRCbox.com these days- there are various lipo articles there but I see only a link to the BigSquid lipo shootout just taking a quick glance. I would love to see a list of tests carried out by other sites and site members, currently they are scattered around and hard to locate..
   
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10.27.2010, 07:46 PM

Sooo how do the turnigy nano tech cells compare to these max amp race edition cells.Rated "a" to"e".
   
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Good question? - 10.27.2010, 07:50 PM

Thats a good question. I bet they are using the same cells. So how is the price in comparison?


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Sooo how do the turnigy nano tech cells compare to these max amp race edition cells.Rated "a" to"e".
I don't know about comparisons........but............

I have 2 of the 2S 25C/50C 4000mah Nanotech packs pushing my E Revo around now. Alot of truck for 4000mah cells on 4S IMO..............

They have ALOT of punch..............come out only slightly warm and balance perfectly everytime. In fact, I'm not balancing them because I want to know how many runs before they do need balancing.

My E Revo setup is:

MMM ESC
CC Neu 1518 geared 24/52 (about 40mph before the tires balloon)

I'm considering a pair of 3S Nano techs so she can show me some 6S power with this motor.

Note: If Maxamps wants to "cut me a deal" on a pair of 2S 6500mah packs, I WILL post an open minded review here for RC Monster Members. No, I'm not calling to talk to Jason or Austin. If interested, send me a PM here.

Note #2: I'm not paying a Bazillion Bucks.

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Thats the thing. - 10.27.2010, 09:38 PM

You see Brandon thats the thing here. People are willing to give Maxamps a second chance now that there seems to be a renewed face for us to deal with, but Maxamps has to offer something worth taking a chance on considering your new claims. There have been some serious trust issues with Maxamps for the last couple of years over bad packs, personality issues, and poor warrenty services, and just putting a sticker on your new packs stating (TRUE 150C) isn't going to open the flood gates with consumers. If your prices are more than ten percent higher than your competitors, then why would any of us take a leap of faith considering the company's past? If you really want people scrambling to get their hands on your new Race Ready packs, then some distance needs to be made up through proof of your "C" rating claims, more competitive pricing, and improved customer services.


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10.27.2010, 07:57 PM

http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-40c-50...-hardcase.html

#2 according to bigsquids test. Look, feel, and perform superbly. Barely lost to Hyperion in the shoot out.

I own two and love them. How can you go wrong.

Brandon, it is things like that that are the no brainers in this industry.

I wish I could have a no brainer purchase from a reputable US company. But for one I can not afford to play with my toys at the rate of your batteries. Two, I have read nothing but bad things, so I am scared to buy something at a higher price if all I hear is that they fail. 20 dollars in and I get a failure, I do not feel bad. These things are what a consumer looks at. I am not saying that MaxAmps are bad, but even you must see this. There was, is, maybe, never was shady business practice, but I think you have the right mindset to help the company get out of this with a better looking horizon. You are already taking a better perspective to the craziness that is located in this forum.

I hope things get turning to a brighter Maxamps future and that one day your batteries are looked at as a no brainer purchase.
   
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10.27.2010, 09:43 PM

For some reason I don't like the idea of "give me a free lipo and I will test it for you" such as the bigsquid lipo battles. There is a bias to this that none of you are thinking of: Companies can test their packs and make sure they send you their best pack.

Now if you buy the battery pack normally (and in the case of Maxamps, use their 30 day money back thing) then the company will have no reason to assume you will test and publish pack performance and thus they are more likely to send you a regular pack.

When it comes down to something like batteries, you shouldn't tell the company to send you some free batteries for testing because they will just send you some super cracked out batteries.

A solution would be to buy the battery normally and then ask the company to buy your battery back after the test. But then the poorest performer probably won't pay you back.

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For some reason I don't like the idea of "give me a free lipo and I will test it for you" such as the bigsquid lipo battles. There is a bias to this that none of you are thinking of: Companies can test their packs and make sure they send you their best pack.

Now if you buy the battery pack normally (and in the case of Maxamps, use their 30 day money back thing) then the company will have no reason to assume you will test and publish pack performance and thus they are more likely to send you a regular pack.

When it comes down to something like batteries, you shouldn't tell the company to send you some free batteries for testing because they will just send you some super cracked out batteries.

A solution would be to buy the battery normally and then ask the company to buy your battery back after the test. But then the poorest performer probably won't pay you back.
Not a bad idea...

I would suggest that any reviewer just find pics of the lipos online, using google pic search and then rate the packs on how nice the label is. Much simpler and cheaper, and would avoid any cost or need for free packs.

Best idea yet, you can all thank me later.
   
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Ask, and you shall receive.

COMPLETE SUPER IN DEPTH LIPO COMPARISON!

Turnigy-

Pros-
Sweet graphics on the numbers
"High Discharge Lipo Battery"
Large Label with lots of numbers and words!
Cons-
Boring Blue

Probably one of the better batteries out there, this pack has a label that covers almost all of the front face of the pack. The label has detailed graphics and lots of stuff going on. More stuff going on = more power in the pack.

Hyperion-

Pros-
It's neat and organized... I guess...
Cons-
Boring
Boring Blue color
Label does not take up the whole pack

Probably the worst battery you can buy. It's shrunk in boring blue heatshrink and has a tiny little label on it, and it doesn't even say anything about "super high discharge" so it obviously sucks.

Thunder Power-

Pros-
LIGHTNING ON THE PACK OMG OMG
45 C in BIG letters
Lots of colors
Cons-
Clear on the sides, who wants to see a battery?

IT HAS LIGHTNING ON THE PACK! Nothing beats this pack, nothing. Lightning can produce 300000 amps! Thats like a true 27000c rating! Put this in your car and your motor will probably explode!

Maxamps-

Pros-
"Race Edition"
True 150c is the biggest number ever printed on a pack!
Sweet graphics on a big label
Cons-
Fire on the pack, lipos don't mix well with fire

The second best battery, right after the thunder power. It has the biggest C rating ever posted on a battery, and it has true on it too so you know they aren't lying! Plus it's a race edition so it's better for racing than the other, non race edition batteries.



This ends my completely unbiased, well documented, and very in depth analysis and comparison of 4 major Lipo packs used in the hobby to this day. I hope I shed some light on any confusion you had on your future battery purchases.
   
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Ask, and you shall receive.

COMPLETE SUPER IN DEPTH LIPO COMPARISON!

Turnigy-

Pros-
Sweet graphics on the numbers
"High Discharge Lipo Battery"
Large Label with lots of numbers and words!
Cons-
Boring Blue

Probably one of the better batteries out there, this pack has a label that covers almost all of the front face of the pack. The label has detailed graphics and lots of stuff going on. More stuff going on = more power in the pack.

Hyperion-

Pros-
It's neat and organized... I guess...
Cons-
Boring
Boring Blue color
Label does not take up the whole pack

Probably the worst battery you can buy. It's shrunk in boring blue heatshrink and has a tiny little label on it, and it doesn't even say anything about "super high discharge" so it obviously sucks.

Thunder Power-

Pros-
LIGHTNING ON THE PACK OMG OMG
45 C in BIG letters
Lots of colors
Cons-
Clear on the sides, who wants to see a battery?

IT HAS LIGHTNING ON THE PACK! Nothing beats this pack, nothing. Lightning can produce 300000 amps! Thats like a true 27000c rating! Put this in your car and your motor will probably explode!

Maxamps-

Pros-
"Race Edition"
True 150c is the biggest number ever printed on a pack!
Sweet graphics on a big label
Cons-
Fire on the pack, lipos don't mix well with fire

The second best battery, right after the thunder power. It has the biggest C rating ever posted on a battery, and it has true on it too so you know they aren't lying! Plus it's a race edition so it's better for racing than the other, non race edition batteries.



This ends my completely unbiased, well documented, and very in depth analysis and comparison of 4 major Lipo packs used in the hobby to this day. I hope I shed some light on any confusion you had on your future battery purchases.
this is the best post ever


now you know freezy


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......maybe they want to be more like novak
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Ask, and you shall receive.

COMPLETE SUPER IN DEPTH LIPO COMPARISON!

Turnigy-

Pros-
Sweet graphics on the numbers
"High Discharge Lipo Battery"
Large Label with lots of numbers and words!
Cons-
Boring Blue

Probably one of the better batteries out there, this pack has a label that covers almost all of the front face of the pack. The label has detailed graphics and lots of stuff going on. More stuff going on = more power in the pack.

Hyperion-

Pros-
It's neat and organized... I guess...
Cons-
Boring
Boring Blue color
Label does not take up the whole pack

Probably the worst battery you can buy. It's shrunk in boring blue heatshrink and has a tiny little label on it, and it doesn't even say anything about "super high discharge" so it obviously sucks.

Thunder Power-

Pros-
LIGHTNING ON THE PACK OMG OMG
45 C in BIG letters
Lots of colors
Cons-
Clear on the sides, who wants to see a battery?

IT HAS LIGHTNING ON THE PACK! Nothing beats this pack, nothing. Lightning can produce 300000 amps! Thats like a true 27000c rating! Put this in your car and your motor will probably explode!

Maxamps-

Pros-
"Race Edition"
True 150c is the biggest number ever printed on a pack!
Sweet graphics on a big label
Cons-
Fire on the pack, lipos don't mix well with fire

The second best battery, right after the thunder power. It has the biggest C rating ever posted on a battery, and it has true on it too so you know they aren't lying! Plus it's a race edition so it's better for racing than the other, non race edition batteries.



This ends my completely unbiased, well documented, and very in depth analysis and comparison of 4 major Lipo packs used in the hobby to this day. I hope I shed some light on any confusion you had on your future battery purchases.

Exactly what I was thinking, good job! This should be stickied, and maybe mailed out as a brochure, or at the very least, included with all traxxas vxl vehicles.

I wonder how TP get the lightning power in the pack? Do you think they use a large funnel to gather the lightning? With the pack at the bottom of the funnel, of course?! It would have to be a wooden funnel as wood is the only material that could contain that kind of raw energy power (save for shrink wrap).

I will have to call TP and see if they will share their "lightning funnel" secrets with me. Hmm, I could use a funnel like that to harness the power of the sun too. The possibilities are endless. Sun powered blenders, completely wireless, just like my cordless toaster. Make a daquari anywhere. Just take a moment to let that sink in, amazing.............

Do we think Maxamps is actually a german guy who was some sort of physicist during ww2? Maybe he invented litium batteries while he was on an acid binge? Sounds plausible to me, given the large quantity of info that I found on wikipedia concerning acid binges. I have read that the number one user of acid happens to be televangalists. They use it to keep themselves up and creative during those long commercial breaks.

I am glad we figured all of this out. I was having a few sleepless nights, but a fair amount of halloween candy put all of these things in perspective and allowed me to think rationally. That and the marvelous post I quoted above. I can only credit my mother and the fabulous thunderbirds as my inspiration to finally find a use for stale bread.

That brings me back to the cordless toaster, I was having difficulty when using a conventional toaster while in the bath. Not onlt did I have to run an extension cord into the bathroom, but I also had to watch out that the toast or pop tart did not land in the bath after the toaster ejected it (upgraded springs on my model). So I devised a cordless toaster. Just cut the cord off, made it totally portable, you guys should try this, as good or better than when you made the switch from tighty-whities to boxers, its that good.

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That's a great comparison!
   
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