RC-Monster Forums  

Go Back   RC-Monster Forums > Support Forums > HPI Savage

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 4 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old
  (#226)
Jahay
RC-Monster Titanium
 
Offline
Posts: 1,007
Join Date: Apr 2010
09.17.2010, 07:53 PM

that is fair enough! you know what you like, and i know exactly what you mean! the flux is a lot more fun being a ballistic and hard to control sort of truck... keep us posted
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#227)
Freezebyte
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
09.17.2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jahay View Post
that is fair enough! you know what you like, and i know exactly what you mean! the flux is a lot more fun being a ballistic and hard to control sort of truck... keep us posted


I really don't like the XL conversion due to the fact that it makes it much harder to control the truck in the air and wheelies are hard to do and maintain. The wider wheel stance also makes crashes alot harder on the truck itself due to the increased leverage which resulted in me breaking the rear linkage today. And the truck doesn't recover as well from crashes and poor landings with the wider wheelbase, its less forgiving.

I basically miss the near out of control feeling the stock Flux has. I just got done taking off all the XL conversion parts tonight and im gonna go drive it tomorroo and see what I think






   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#228)
thzero
RC-Monster Aluminum
 
Offline
Posts: 800
Join Date: Oct 2009
09.17.2010, 10:45 PM

I would say that the arm could have broken in a X/Flux just as easily and really has little to do with the extended axles.

Go figure that wheelies are harder, you have a longer chassis which means that it is going to take more force to rotate the truck as the weight at the front has been moved further away from the pivot point. Pretty easy physics experiment to reproduce.

But you gotta do what you gotta do to have fun with it.

Btw is tomorroo related to a kangaroo?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#229)
josh9mille
RC-Monster Aluminum
 
josh9mille's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 897
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Same town as "Brand P"
09.18.2010, 02:27 AM

Isnt that most of the reason people convert to XL is to help keep the front end down? I really dont think you can compain about not being able to wheelie or correct in-air antics untill you run at least 5s. The 4s you are running is barely enough on a standard flux, let alone an XL. Also if you are using punch control it greatly reduces the ability to correct in the air. Not sure if you are using punch control or not but its just an FYI


Built Ford tough, with Chevy stuff.

Last edited by josh9mille; 09.18.2010 at 02:29 AM.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#230)
Nard Cox
n00b
 
Offline
Posts: 519
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Netherlands
09.18.2010, 05:57 AM

I can still do standing backflips on 4S with my XL conversion, driving till topspeed on the rear wheels is also no problem. In the air I like it more than the normal Flux size, it's more stable. I hardly ever need to adjust the car while airborne and when I have to it's just a sqeeze away.

If you decide to go back to stock Flux length buy the TCS conversion, cheap and I've only read good things about it.


Mugen MBX6Te RCM + Mugen MBX6e RCM + Savage Flux XL FLM + MERV all with Spectrum DX3S || WTS&WTB
  Send a message via MSN to Nard Cox  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#231)
Nard Cox
n00b
 
Offline
Posts: 519
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Netherlands
09.18.2010, 08:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freezebyte View Post
UPDATE: Steering mod and test run damage
How sure are you that your steering mod works??

I'm currently rebuilding my Flux from scratch so I wanted to try your mod on my stock parts. But when I turned to the maximum I saw the following:


So there is actually room left before they will make contact.


You didn't shave this which makes contact.

I remembered I saved the steering mod in my bookmarks so I dug it out:

Savage Steering Mod
Looking at those pics you need to be shaving a heck of a lot more than you did. So unless RPM parts differ from stock you didn't increase steering, you only weaked the part by a very small amount ;)


Mugen MBX6Te RCM + Mugen MBX6e RCM + Savage Flux XL FLM + MERV all with Spectrum DX3S || WTS&WTB
  Send a message via MSN to Nard Cox  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#232)
Muggydude
RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
 
Offline
Posts: 163
Join Date: Apr 2010
09.18.2010, 12:30 PM

While doing the steering mod i did indeed shave that part off along with some other parts on the carrier. I have a lot of steering!


R.I.P. Muggy, Rustler, VXL Slash
EFlite Blade MSR Heli (Slightly modded)
1/16 BL E-revo
8-t 2.0, OS Vspec with Speed conrod
Carbon Fiber Revo 3.3 Coversion Madness!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#233)
Freezebyte
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
09.18.2010, 12:45 PM

I thought about it but I didn't wanna compromise the strength of the upright carrier and making it easier to break. If I want more steering, i'll sell the Flux and buy a truggy
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#234)
Freezebyte
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
09.18.2010, 03:18 PM

Well just got back having a BLAST with "Frostbyte II" without the XL conversion. I was amazed at the difference. With FB2 back in stock form, wheelies were now simply on demand as much as I wanted, so much so that I forgotten how easy it to flip it on its lid, the XL conversion definitely cuts down wheelies alot, under 4s power anyway. I now also had the ability to control my truck in the air alot quicker then with the XL conversion. I was now easily able to do backflips for all the kids in the park that were running from the birthday party and skate park to watch my truck in action. To bad I didn't have my camera to record my jumps, backflips and shit loads of crashes, but I was just too busy having fun with my truck at long last and watching little kids go "Whooooaaaaa!" as my truck did wheelies in the dirt, jumped around and did speed runs, not to mention my numerous crashes and bad landings which only resulted in breaking the front bumper support strut, thats it!

I also recieved my Duratrax temp gun this morning so I was checking the motor at random times. I never saw the temp go above 48c and the MMM fan was sometimes running, sometimes it wasn't. The XL conversion definitely puts more of a load on the motor on the stock 20/44 gearing.

That being said, i've got some major cleaning up to do as it rained last night so I got FB2 a wee bit dirty but I had a blast all the same. Now its just a matter of if I wanna jump up to 6s with the XL conversion kit or just leave it in stock chassis form and do a new body. Needless to say, alot more driving and having fun is needed!







Last edited by Freezebyte; 09.18.2010 at 03:25 PM.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#235)
Arct1k
RC-Monster Mod
 
Arct1k's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 6,597
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NJ
09.18.2010, 03:21 PM

LMK if you want to hand off the axle extenders :)
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#236)
JThiessen
RC-Monster Brushless
 
JThiessen's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,436
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Edmonds WA
09.18.2010, 04:23 PM

NOW it looks right....dont clean it man!

I am in complete agreement with you on the effects of the XL conversion. I'd say now you should get a pair of 3S packs, and run it with those too. I think you will like it. You dont have to run it on those all the time, but I have found that I rarely run mine on 4S anymore. Of course I did just have the ESC go up in flames........


Losi 8T 1.0, Savage Flux - XL style, LST XXL, Muggy, 3.3 E-Revo Conversion and sitting outside 425hp, 831 Tq Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel. It SMOKES
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#237)
88gtanotchback
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
09.18.2010, 04:54 PM

does this mean the FLM chassis is for sale? lol
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#238)
Freezebyte
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
09.18.2010, 05:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post
NOW it looks right....dont clean it man!
Like hell I ain't cleaning it!

Quote:
Originally Posted by 88gtanotchback View Post
does this mean the FLM chassis is for sale? lol
Dunno, I need to do further driving and testing before I make my decision.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#239)
Muggydude
RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
 
Offline
Posts: 163
Join Date: Apr 2010
09.18.2010, 08:02 PM

Well if you keep it stock wheelbase, get some TCS TVPS! $20 is a killer price, and I love mine. I would keep it un-XL even if you go to 6s or 5s


R.I.P. Muggy, Rustler, VXL Slash
EFlite Blade MSR Heli (Slightly modded)
1/16 BL E-revo
8-t 2.0, OS Vspec with Speed conrod
Carbon Fiber Revo 3.3 Coversion Madness!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#240)
josh9mille
RC-Monster Aluminum
 
josh9mille's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 897
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Same town as "Brand P"
09.18.2010, 08:10 PM

cleaning is highly overrated lol. I agree get 2 3s packs and then you can experiment between 5s and 6s. I think you will be very happy with 5s myself.


Built Ford tough, with Chevy stuff.
   
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump







Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com