Wheels?? To Glue Or Not To Glue???

[blueb8llz]

hey arct1k i pmed about your maximizers.

thats funny how this thread just popped up. for the last 2 days i was seriously looking into getting some beadlocks. after some reading, i chose to get the maximizer's. i hear the axial's are nice but they dont grip as well as maximizers because the screws are smaller and weaker than the maximizers. i hear you should get some new larger screws 4-40 stainless or Titanium SHCS makes a huge difference. and lastly, the maximizers only use 8 screws the axials have more.
i was also looking to get the mulcher tires. i hear they are the best tires for bashing. this is from a guy that used almost every popular tire including badlands, mashers, zombies, etc...
im just weary about the run life on them. they seem like they would wear out fast.

[Sammus]

yeah mulchers do wear out fast, theyre good if your on grass a lot though.

badlands seem to cop anything though, they are my tyre of choice for sure. I've had a set for 2 years that have been on every surface, including a lot of burning around on the road, and they barely look worn.

[blueb8llz]

hmmm.. im not on grass too much. mainly loose gravel, dirt, pebbles, rocks... construction type zones. the only thing holding back back on badlands are the width of tire. because on how they are more narrow, it makes my emaxx look less like a monster truck if you know what im saying. but say i do decide to choose the badlands, will they work on maximizer beadlocks since the tires are more narrow?

[JERRY2KONE]

I am happy to see some different points of view on the beadlocks, but from what I have seen I really like them. I was thinking that if you are running that hard and pulling the tire out of the rim, then maybe you can put a few drops of glue on the ring to hold the tire even more. And yea I was noticing how pewny the screws are as well, and thinking that I might just upgrade them to something a little bit bigger. Anyhow I took mine back apart and taped the tires with the reinforced paking tape. It is pretty lite stuff but also pretty tough tape. I noticed that the Axial rims already have two holes drilled in them to vent the tire. Now all I have to do is secure the insert to the rim somehow in order to keep them from moving once the wheels are completely assembled. That way the wheels should be able to hold their balancing once it is done. I am going to try and rig up my own homebrew balancer setup and see how that works for me. It should not be too tough to figure out. Some 3/8" rod and a couple of bearings should do the trick.

I also saw that RC4WD has a few sets of aluminum beadlock wheels. Once I get the hang of these I plan on trying a set for my UE Lightning SuperMaxx. The Plettenberg Big Maximum should be able to handle them ok. After all I am not trying to win any races with it. I just want a bulletproof show truck that can run with the best bashers. Not too much to ask, but it does cost big $$$$ to get there. Oh well that is what retirement annuity is for. I will post up more as this pans out.

[blueb8llz]

"Now all I have to do is secure the insert to the rim somehow in order to keep them from moving once the wheels are completely assembled. That way the wheels should be able to hold their balancing once it is done."

are you talking about the foams shifting around inside the rims? yea when you think of a way, let us know. i hate when it shifts, causes major wheel unbalance issues. only think i thought of was sand the rim where the foam would touch it. anybody know of the cheapest balancer i can buy?

[JERRY2KONE]

are you talking about the foams shifting around inside the rims? yea when you think of a way, let us know. i hate when it shifts, causes major wheel unbalance issues. only think i thought of was sand the rim where the foam would touch it. anybody know of the cheapest balancer i can buy?[/QUOTE]

Well lincpimp mentioned using an R/C airplane Prop balancer to get his wheels balanced, and that seems to work for him. I am sure that Tower Hobby has them in stock. I cannot imagine that one of those costs too much to acquire. All we have to do is conjor up a way to mount the wheels onto the prop shaft to keep it centered, and then use one of the methods mentioned earlier in the thread for weighting the wheel in the right location (lead tape, sticky weights, or even metal putty). Once you get the wheel balanced perfectly it should spin freely for long periods without interuption. All one has to do is build a mounting jig wide enough to hold a wide 40 series wheel, that will hold a perfect shaft on a set of bearings. Once you figure out a good way to mount the wheel on the shaft you are in business.

[Sammus]

tower have a magnetic prop balancer but it cant hold the weight of MT wheels (looked at the online manual and its got a max weight... can't remember what it was, but remember it wasn't enough lol) Amain have one that has solid supports, so weight isn't a problem, its even got a wheel adaptor :P
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/4870
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/4354

hmm good point about the width...i wonder if its wide enough?

[JThiessen]

How about using a lawn mower blade balancing device? http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...ancer&sLevel=0
It may or may not work - depends a lot on wether you can get the wheel centered on the stepped cone or not.

[bdebde]

Originally Posted by blueb8llz

"Now all I have to do is secure the insert to the rim somehow in order to keep them from moving once the wheels are completely assembled. That way the wheels should be able to hold their balancing once it is done."

Spray glue

Originally Posted by blueb8llz

... anybody know of the cheapest balancer i can buy?

Use an old hub and well worn but smooth bearings...price = free! Remove the bearing seals and use light (wd40) or no oil.

[JERRY2KONE]

Ok well I broke down and purchased a Dubro off road wheel balancer kit from AMAIN Hobby for $28. I will see how well that works out. I also broke down and purchased a Hako soldering station. I needed a new one anyway.

[blueb8llz]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Ok well I broke down and purchased a Dubro off road wheel balancer kit from AMAIN Hobby for $28. I will see how well that works out. I also broke down and purchased a Hako soldering station. I needed a new one anyway.

nice! did you have to buy that monster truck wheel adapter as well?
tell us how it works. but even if you do balance your tires/wheels good, woudlnt the foams just shift around causing them to be unbalanced again? then you will needa take off all putty, and do it all over right? wouldnt that be a pain >

[jayjay283]

Originally Posted by blueb8llz

nice! did you have to buy that monster truck wheel adapter as well?
tell us how it works. but even if you do balance your tires/wheels good, woudlnt the foams just shift around causing them to be unbalanced again? then you will needa take off all putty, and do it all over right? wouldnt that be a pain >

Mr negativity lol

[Sammus]

I've been balancing my wheels for ages like this. If you make sure the foams are seated properly before hand theres no problem. If the foam breaks though it can bunch up on one side causing problems.

Stupid savage xl stock wheels have like 3 rectangles of foam stapled together to form a triangle lol. They break pretty easy, i know this from experience.

[blueb8llz]

hahah nah negative , i just like to think alot ...one of my faults. and think ahead of time. and prepare for the worst so when it doesnt turn out as expected, then all the better..hehe.

[jayjay283]

Ive never had an issue with the axial foams, I drive brushless (of course) and its basher style 50mph min. only had problems with the imex foams, 2 months and they are crumbs in the wheel