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03.23.2009, 02:17 PM

i had put the new firmware on mine. it did get 50 percent smoother. which made it half a smooth as a MMM. worked 10 more minutes and died.
   
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uuhhh... - 03.27.2009, 09:23 AM

... I'm curious how well or bad mine will be, I've ordered one today. In that online-shop it was on sale for 127 Euro, which is about 169 usd.

I have already heard about the new rotors, and have asked the wholesaler for germany/austria, robitronic. he told me that they're about to receive some new rotors. they have the same power-specs, but a new black winding. I detectet at mine that the kevlar-winding slowly getting loose...

but so far I'm happy with the motor, temps have been ok and performance is good. by far better then any chinese-crap. it's a four-pole motor, which gives better torque and is better for the partial load-use we have in cars (the two-poles don't like that much, so they get hot).

anyways, the overall-quality of the motor is good, so I ordered the esc. I hope its a good one... at the moment I use a cheapo-chinese esc, modded with fan and fat caps, and it works - funny thing - just flawlessly (just the breaks suck). for a price of 30 euros...

I think losi xcelorin needs some positive public relations, the standing of these products isn't the best at the moment. I 've read about so many failures of e.g. mgm controllers, which cost a sh**load of money, still the're supposed to be top of the shelf...

at least the xcelorin motor is great quality for that money (about 90-100 euros), it's hard to get medusas here.

I wonder if modding of the xcelorin esc with some extra power caps would make sense... any other feedback is highly appreciated.

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03.27.2009, 10:02 AM

You should update the firmware before doing anything else to it. A few features will be locked and some will behave different, like the brakes for example. Mine still works fine. I haven't felt the need to add more caps, as the ESC doesn't get hot at all. The limit is 3000kv. I tried a two pole 3600kv motor and it just cogs. I tried a 3100kv 2 pole more and it was a hit or miss. Still works well with a 2700kv 4 pole motor. I haven't tried the 4800kv 4 pole motor yet, to see if it works or not.

Here's a vid of the ESC running on 6s A123 and a 2700kv motor.



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09.21.2009, 10:11 AM

I installed the lastest Firmware Losi released for the 1/8 ESC. The ESC was smoother on takoff and ran fine for a whole pack. Second pack started off good. But it let the magic smoke out when it cogged for second.


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GTP-Pletty Big Maxximum+RX8. GTP-C50-6L Hacker+RX8. CRT.5-Pro4+ZTW esc.
24s2p EVG SX 49.6mph Ebike.
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09.21.2009, 08:17 PM

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But it let the magic smoke out when it cogged for second.
That is how mine went and it took 2 months to get a replacement...so I bought the MMM and haven't had a problem...I have the new replacement Losi in the wrapper still...and given your results, it will stay there a lot longer.
   
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09.21.2009, 09:30 PM

I took mine apart and saw the 3 fets with the missing smoke compartments.


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09.27.2009, 10:03 PM

For those interested, here are guts of the ESC.







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