Size motors to use with MMP

no on 4s

[Riko]

About the MMM and the MMP I also was wondering if it is possible to swap the motors used for 1 ESC to use it on the other ESC?

for instance the 2200KV motor used in the MMM, can easily be used with the MMP ESC with 5s?

if that is all easy to swap, why would Castle than market it in such a way that MMM can only be used with 1/8 and MMP only with 1/10? :)

[Riko]

hm,

I see that the MMP uses 4mm bullet connectors wich goes up to 75A
and the MMM uses 6mm bullet connectors wich goes up to 200A

so I guess that has somewhat a influence on the relation ESC - motor?

[jhautz]

Connectors can be changed. All you need is a soldering iron. Heck... You don't even need to use connectors if you direct solder. Not sure what your question is?

All CC is trying to say is don't overload the esc. They can both run a 1/8 buggy or as large of a motor as you want. It's just the amount of load you are putting on it. Lots of factors go into figuring out what the load is/will be. If you don't understand I would reccomend just getting the MMM if your car is a 1/8 and getting the MMP if it's 1/10. That's why castle speced them that way.

[Riko]

okay thx

Patrick mentioned in one thread that the 2200 could draw in excess of 2K amps and in another thread that they would not warranty a MMM used on a motor less than 70mm long

. I actually think Joe might have said something about this . IIRC it was pertaining to a smaller motor, in a bigger vehicle, and that once a small motor starts to go, it can fry the esc due to over amp draw. The smaller motor being more likely to have a problem with a heavy vehicle.

[suicideneil]

Thats what I seem to recall too- was quite a while ago for sure. Using an undersized motor and trying to gear it like you would a larger motor will cause issues with any esc- once the motor starts to demag its sucks current like crazy- esc and wires then start to heat up alot; take my word on that one...

[Riko]

lol so, can somebody sum up for noobs? :D

MMP (1/10 esc) + small motor (for 1/10) = good combo
MMp esc + larger motor (2200kv) = bad...because

MMM (1/8 esc) + small motor (for 1/10) = bad...cause
MMM + larger motor (2200kv) = good combo

[Unsullied_Spy]

Originally Posted by Riko

lol so, can somebody sum up for noobs? :D

MMP (1/10 esc) + small motor (for 1/10) = good combo
MMp esc + larger motor (2200kv) = bad...because

MMM (1/8 esc) + small motor (for 1/10) = bad...cause
MMM + larger motor (2200kv) = good combo

MMP + Larger motor = Bad when used in the wrong setup, in 1/8th setups I'd use it only on 6s with lower KV motors when your peak power output is less than 2,000 watts (keep the amps down).

MMM + Small motor = OK. Small motor + big truck = bad. You won't hurt a motor or ESC by using an overkill ESC.

[Riko]

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

MMP + Larger motor = Bad when used in the wrong setup, in 1/8th setups I'd use it only on 6s with lower KV motors when your peak power output is less than 2,000 watts (keep the amps down).

MMM + Small motor = OK. Small motor + big truck = bad. You won't hurt a motor or ESC by using an overkill ESC.

okay, thx dude!

I'm probably gonna get booed off stage for this statement. But it seems to me like Novak has the best mid-size motor right now, the HV. Why not take advantage of all that sensor work they put into it. :D If you used the 7.5 (3000kv) then the bigger rotor, which is supposed to drop the kv, and figure that it is an unloaded rating, it should be fine on 6s.
I'm thinking of running this combo, in 4.5 flavor, on 4s, in the new Slash 4x4 .

[BrianG]

I agree asheck. With the demise of Medusa, the Novak HV series is about the best mid-size motor out that I can think of.

[scarletboa]

*cough* neu 1509 and 1512 series *cough*

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by scarletboa

*cough* neu 1509 and 1512 series *cough*

*cough cough*

[BrianG]

OK, I guess price should have been mentioned too.