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thats going to be a sweet setup for my losi xxl


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does anyone know the KV of the motor CC was using in their baja that 8s setup?
   
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I think this would be an awesome conversion with the Castle ESC and motor, maybe one day I'll be able to afford it: http://www.fgmodellsport.de/FG-Inter...-layout_e.html


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Honestly, if Castle is having issues with people melting MMM on 6s on 1/8 scale trucks, im scared to think of the kind of smoke/explosions are we gonna see with 8s powered systems in Bajas?
   
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Honestly, if Castle is having issues with people melting MMM on 6s on 1/8 scale trucks, im scared to think of the kind of smoke/explosions are we gonna see with 8s powered systems in Bajas?
Why? Its a COMPLETELY different ESC. Don't you think they've been taking notes the past years?

You seriously doubt this beast?


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Looks like the original Mamba Max on Steroids!


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Honestly, if Castle is having issues with people melting MMM on 6s on 1/8 scale trucks, im scared to think of the kind of smoke/explosions are we gonna see with 8s powered systems in Bajas?
Then I guess you'll have to miss out on all the fun.
   
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11.02.2010, 06:50 PM

hopefully the shaft of the 20er motor is 10mm as this is the standart in big scale models.
lehner 30er models and the plettenberg bolido are also with 10mm shafts.

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11.02.2010, 06:55 PM

8mm shaft on the 20 series motor. The "Neu standard" for their larger motors. :)
   
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11.02.2010, 07:05 PM

So which company will be the first to make 8mm to 10mm sleeves????
   
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11.03.2010, 03:47 AM

well ... very annoying. i don't get it. there is an established standard. it makes no sense at all to deviate.
each to their own. imho its just not really clever.

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11.03.2010, 04:33 AM

dam, 10mm is what all my 5th scales have. all 5.
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11.03.2010, 10:21 AM

I don't know that you can really call 10mm the "established standard" on 1/5 electric. I don't honestly think there is such a thing as a 1/5 electric "established standard" to be honest. It isn't as if there has been some booming electric 1/5 market for the last X years. I suspect the Castle system will establish the standard, as there simply isn't any other 1/5 systems in existence as far as I know? Sure, people have used some expensive HV ESCs and large motors intended for the boats or planes initially(myself included), but in terms of a dedicated system, Castle is the first and therefore will be the established standard. On a similar note, I have a full range of 8mm bore mod 1.5 pinions - not sure if such a source exists for 10mm bore pinions(and this would also limit the available size at the small end as well). It is also far easier to make a 10mm to 8mm bore reducer once for all your pinions than it is to ream out all the hardened pinions to 10mm.
   
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11.03.2010, 10:40 AM

huh? all bigscale models i know of use 10mm pinions this ist the size of the clutch used on zenoahs and similar engines.
the plettenberg bolido is explicitly a car motor. and the big schulze escs do very well in many big scale conversions. those escs and motors are sure intended to be used in car models. of course the "market" may not be that big yet. and to be honest i am pretty sure it will stay much smaller than the 8th scale market even after the entry of the castle system for different reasons. but we will see.
i know you have 8mm pinions. thats nice.
however there was imo no need at all to go for another standard.
10mm would simply have been compatible to the pinions etc already existing.
anyway now the things are set and we will adapt to the realities. no big deal.

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11.03.2010, 10:53 AM

Zenoah makes gas motors - not electric. Many/most 1/5 conversions that make use of the clutch may use 10mm shafts to be compatible, but that is an adaptation rather than an established standard imo. Where do you get a 10mm bore pinion or a selection of them? I know I chose 8mm for my pinions based on a couple reasons - 1st, I prefer Neu motors and the 22 series is a nice choice for 1/5 scale - these motors happen to be available with an 8mm shaft(not 10mm). Secondly, a 10mm shaft would inherently limit the the tooth count on the low side, which forces a higher rollout - works on a gas powered Zenoah, but in sensorless brushless, to much rollout leads to cogging at startup along with excessive heat - 8mm allows plenty of shaft strength and magnet adherence, while also allowing reasonably small tooth counts to be used for greater reduction. These to reasons along make 8mm shafts make sense in my eyes. Again, it is also easier to make a sleave for smaller bore pinions than it is to bore out each pinions used, so it makes sense from this standpoint as well.
   
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