What do you think of my buggy project?

[hemi123]

hey didn't mean anything bad about the clutch setup. just not to sure how well its going to work out. i would really like to know how well it works when your done.
as for the controller/ battery the main problem is that its just going to be pulling alot of amps. the mgm 160 can do 160amps at full throttle an 200amp burst. so your going to need a pack that can handle that kind of amp draw. i found out that if i gun it really hard then it cuts off at half throttle or higher. but if i roll into the throttle then im fine.

[MTBikerTim]

David, I'm going to say go with it. If you like the feel of a clutch, stick in a clutch. If you don't like it you can always change it.

[RC-Monster Mike]

The clutch has its pro and cons, just like anything else. It should smooth out the low end throttle response and "feel" a bit more like a nitro on the low end. It will also add an element of protection to the drivetrain. Cons....well, you need mechanical brakes, so more linkage, weight and overall clutter on the setup. The "softer" low end translates into less punch - this is an advantage in some areas and a disadvantage in others. No reverse, either - a racer doesn't need this anyways.
The extra mass of the clutch will be minimal or unnoticeable. This extra mass would typically yield more torque and peak current draw(flywheel effect), but the slipping clutch will minimize this to a degree. You may lose some runtime due to the slip (wasted energy), but in a 5 minute race this is a non-issue. The only thing you can do is try it and see if you like it. If you want to swap a little runtime and simplicity for the low speed "nitro feel", then the clutch and mechanical brakes is the answer. :)

[glassdoctor]

I was running the same springs as everyone else. Maybe I got fuel on it? Also, the clutch bell gets grooved up etc and that can be a problem. I swapped that out too, along with the 7075 shoes. I'm definitely not an experienced nitro guy... I did what the smart guys said to do. ??

Point is it was about the only problem I had all summer with nitro... and it's a constant maintenance thing. So for me, I lost interest in running a clutch in my electric...

The main reason why i use the clutch setup is the fact that i want to keep the mechanical brake. And if i use the RCM motor mount for my RC8 or my Mugen, i the motor it the rear brake caliper. I must use a 20T + pinion, wich will give my more than 50m/h.
So the only way to keep mechanical brake for me is to use the RCM revo motor mount, but the revo motor mount should be place little behind/rear the rear center diff mount to clear the brake calipers, so the problem now is the stock motor shaft is not long enough to use a standard pinion and reach the center diff spur gear. The only way to extand the motor shaft is to use the Tekno eletri clutch setup. But if i don't like the clutchbell setup, the Tekno electri clutch have a 5mm shaft so i'll can use a standard pinion on it.

[riceman]

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike

The clutch has its pro and cons, just like anything else. It should smooth out the low end throttle response and "feel" a bit more like a nitro on the low end. It will also add an element of protection to the drivetrain. Cons....well, you need mechanical brakes, so more linkage, weight and overall clutter on the setup. The "softer" low end translates into less punch - this is an advantage in some areas and a disadvantage in others. No reverse, either - a racer doesn't need this anyways.
The extra mass of the clutch will be minimal or unnoticeable. This extra mass would typically yield more torque and peak current draw(flywheel effect), but the slipping clutch will minimize this to a degree. You may lose some runtime due to the slip (wasted energy), but in a 5 minute race this is a non-issue. The only thing you can do is try it and see if you like it. If you want to swap a little runtime and simplicity for the low speed "nitro feel", then the clutch and mechanical brakes is the answer. :)

Great feedback Mike. Nice to see your opinion on this.

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I do like the mech. brakes on my tekno revo. They work very well and my quark/aveox setup stays cool too! Mybe mech brakes and the centerdiff/slipper would be the best bet. I love reverse, so I am torn between the two!

If you absolutely have to have reverse - you can run the Tekno conversion and still keep it but will have to ditch the center diff/FOC. When I first converted mine I tried to see how it would go in leaving as much of it stock as I could. The only changes I made right off were wheels and tires... oh yeah... I did remove the Opti-drive.
Here's a short clip of my Revo using reverse when it was pretty much stock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvbxNKjtul8

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by david lamontagn

The main reason why i use the clutch setup is the fact that i want to keep the mechanical brake. And if i use the RCM motor mount for my RC8 or my Mugen, i the motor it the rear brake caliper. I must use a 20T + pinion, wich will give my more than 50m/h.
So the only way to keep mechanical brake for me is to use the RCM revo motor mount, but the revo motor mount should be place little behind/rear the rear center diff mount to clear the brake calipers, so the problem now is the stock motor shaft is not long enough to use a standard pinion and reach the center diff spur gear. The only way to extand the motor shaft is to use the Tekno eletri clutch setup. But if i don't like the clutchbell setup, the Tekno electri clutch have a 5mm shaft so i'll can use a standard pinion on it.

David, If you get on Mega's website they carry mod 1 pinions that are longer than a std pinion. I think they are for use with the Losi 8 vehicles. They would allow you to retain the mount placement and brake clearance and be able to reach the spur. Heres a link, they are in the middle of the page: http://www.megamotorusa.com/Shopping...at=Mod+1+Gears

Thank you James!! I'll keep it in mind if i want to switch back to a direct spur/pinion setup!

[naftausa]

go with mugen..

here's mine...

http://juanito.mastertopforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=101



i wish u post some pics of the mech brake.. i'll use it..

Just sell my RC8 and get an HPI Baja SS

And YES i'll keep the Mugen MBX5 and put MBX5T diff in it, to lower the final ratio

[lincpimp]

I am right there with you on the baja ss kit David. I need to sell a few cars and I may get one in the new year. Proline released the badlands rear tires for the baja, I would love to see that tear up the baseball feild next door to my shop!

I need to post up my current project. I am using the tekno clutch adapter with a 4tec 2 speed clutch bell on my yusa rally chassis (like the inferno gt). I had to make a custom spacer to get the two spur gears at the correct distance for the 2 speed spurs. I am also using an integy 3 shoe flywheel kit with al shoes. We will see if it can hold up the the increased load that the car can place on it. I would like to see an 1/8 scale clutch adapter, maybe tekno could whip one up!

My main purpose for the clutch is to allow the use of a MM with my aveox motor. The aveox motors have similar issues with the MM as the neu motors do. Plus I am running some tall gearing, 15/48 1st gear and 20/44 2nd gear! The clutch should help the aveox pull the tall gearing without cogging on startup. This car should be good for 65+!

Proline released the badlands rear tires for the baja

I've already a set of pre-order, with a DDm Dominator tune pipe, Elcon clutch system and.........a 27.2 ESP mod racing engine.

I can't wait to smell the odor of burned Klotz super techniplate

[lincpimp]

You are crazy David. I will have to buy one now, if only to keep up with you. I have a feeling that mine will stay kit stock, it looks to be decently upgraded from the RTR baja 5b! Maybe shave the head and run some race fuel!

I had the 5B last summer and the only thing i can tell you about motor, don't shaved any head or try to modify it, buy a hole new ESP engine. That's the best and you avoid lot of headhaches.
I've try to modify my engine, put head kit, reed valve, etc, and have lot of problem.
And the day i've decided to buy a complet Zen 26, ESP race ported, Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no problems at all, and power to pass any of the best nitro truck.

This truck is a beast.

try it, and you'll fall in love with it