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Rivermaxx · 08.21.2009, 04:54 PM

How big are the batts and where are they positioned cant really tell in the pics? What oil is in the shocks. Sounds like theres none in them if it bottoms with only 10" of drop.

nitrostarter · 08.21.2009, 04:56 PM

He said they are filled with 80wt....

I think this may be an issue of position and angle of the shocks.

ANGRY-ALIEN · 08.21.2009, 05:09 PM

Yep... Another thing too... Kcaz25, have you checked the state of the rubber bladders in the shocks... Some people have experienced them blowing out with oil weight higher than 70.

Alien

Rivermaxx · 08.21.2009, 05:13 PM

I think he better check, the bottom of those retainers look very wet for it not to be a nitro. Pull the pistons out and see if they been modded. I dont think my truck would bottom out with 80wt oil and no springs lol thats very thick oil.

Kcaz25 · 08.21.2009, 05:23 PM

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I actually document everything I do here in case any one is wondering, even though I really don't mind answering the same questions.

I've tried just about every position Nitrostarter. I've heard the more shock slant gives the most resistance. And that is true.
The bladders in the caps are fine, but the bottoms are too wet for my liking, yet upon opening the shocks the oil is clear and still full.

... so maybe the little discs in the body is letting too much oil by? AKA the holes in the discs are too big? Are there interchangable ones?

Lito help!!

George16 · 08.21.2009, 05:35 PM

Zack, bottoming out is not a bad thing at all. It helps to protect your shocks. Besides, once the truck is in motion, you should be landing it with the rear wheels first just like an airplane landing on the tarmac. Have you ever seen any airplane land on all fours at the same time? None. Any vertical drop will cause it to bottom out so but not so when you land properly. You need to practice landing your truck rear wheels first . I'm running blue/black (f/r) springs with 50wt oil all around on my emaxx. It bottoms out when dropped from about 6-8 inches off the ground but rarely bottoms outs when landing from a jump.

Looking at the upper mounting point on the shock, try mounting it on hole #7 (second hole from top on the center.

Kcaz25 · 08.21.2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

I see one big issue after seeing your other pics. Your battery is almost sitting right on top of the rear diff no wonder it bottoms out. Put it on the side where it belongs and mount your esc there or just leave it open. I would definatly check your oil levels in your shocks because they seem to be leaking a little. While your at it check the bladders like was said previously. 80 imho weight is to high I feel 50or 60 would be better .

You go back (about page 7) and look at the whole layout, since you can't feel it, remember the motor is mounted on one side. It is nearly perfectly balanced.

Like I said previously the bladders are good.

Sorry I don't mean to be so quick I just really like the layout, I know its good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by George16

Zack, bottoming out is not a bad thing at all. It helps to protect your shocks. Besides, once the truck is in motion, you should be landing it with the rear wheels first just like an airplane landing on the tarmac. Have you ever seen any airplane land on all fours at the same time? None. Any vertical drop will cause it to bottom out so but not so when you land properly. You need to practice landing your truck rear wheels first . I'm running blue/black (f/r) springs with 50wt oil all around on my emaxx. It bottoms out when dropped from about 6-8 inches off the ground but rarely bottoms outs when landing from a jump.

Looking at the upper mounting point on the shock, try mounting it on hole #7 (second hole from top on the center.

Okay I suck at jumping.

But I remember dropping my savage from 4 feet to bottom it when it was brand new RTR and still had an engine (now just sits waiting on money to convert.) Oh well...

nitrostarter · 08.21.2009, 05:37 PM

He replied on UE and said the same thing I was saying. That even his truck bottoms out from a 8inch drop. They will do that. Its all about driving and jumping. Thats why I was saying to go try the track and see how it performs. There will be some bottoming out, thats what the skid plates are for. But the main thing is to learn how to jump and land.

Dropping the truck straight down is one thing. But driving and jump and landing is completely different. There are multiple forces applying different forces while running and jumping.

Rivermaxx · 08.21.2009, 05:38 PM

I see one big issue after seeing your other pics. Your battery is almost sitting right on top of the rear diff no wonder it bottoms out. Put it on the side where it belongs and mount your esc there or just leave it open. I would definatly check your oil levels in your shocks because they seem to be leaking a little. While your at it check the bladders like was said previously. 80 imho weight is to high I feel 50or 60 would be better .

Rivermaxx · 08.21.2009, 06:36 PM

I have read about your whole setup a while ago I cant remember every detail. How do you know its pefectly balanced did you weigh each individual wheel. Anyway I am just stating the obvious, if you put more weight towards the back its going to bottom out the back sooner than if the weight was more toward the middle. Like it or not I believe this is one of your problems. I personally would turn the tranny around and push the batts as far foward as you can(on the sides where they belong). Why is it so important that its balanced anyway do you race it or just bash?

Kcaz25 · 08.22.2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

I have read about your whole setup a while ago I cant remember every detail. How do you know its pefectly balanced did you weigh each individual wheel. Anyway I am just stating the obvious, if you put more weight towards the back its going to bottom out the back sooner than if the weight was more toward the middle. Like it or not I believe this is one of your problems. I personally would turn the tranny around and push the batts as far foward as you can(on the sides where they belong). Why is it so important that its balanced anyway do you race it or just bash?

Thanx but no thanx River. The weight IS more towards the front. The motor IS pointed forward and the esc with all its wires is also in the front and to one side opposite one of the batteries, and if anyone noticed with all this space I could run 6s 2sx2sx2s!! Giving lower CG.

Cool chad good to hear. Yeah the Plastic case functioned great for me as well, it just flexed too much as you know allowing the motor attached to it to punch whatever was under it (in MY case (ONLY) the ESC).

Chadworkz · 08.21.2009, 10:00 PM

Lito's answer FTW!

Chadworkz · 08.22.2009, 01:55 AM

Well, I got my Gorillamaxx G1 Single-Speed Conversion installed, using a stock plastic half-case and new Acer Racing ceramic bearings, and everything went well and it spins extremely smooth...very impressive!

The only other thing I want to do to it is find and install a set of OTB/Ultramaxxed GenIII gears in it, then it will be bomb-proof! There was a NIP set on eBay not too long ago, but I didn't need them at the time, so I didn't buy them (kicks self in butt).

Anyway, for anyone thinking about installing the G1, I highly recommend it!

Rivermaxx · 08.22.2009, 11:17 AM

Mine works fine with the stock plastic gear and ue steel idler. I do have a set of titanium gears though. Did you do the input shaft pin mod?.

Rivermaxx · 08.22.2009, 12:52 PM

Put the front on a scale and take a pic an do the same with the rear. I really dont believe with the battery sitting that far back the rear is lighter than the front.
Heres an example of the weight distribution I am running:

I love how the g-maxx sets up its so CLEAN and perfectly balanced with the UE mono and setbacks combined with the low cog no wonder it handles so good.