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09.26.2011, 01:03 PM

As far as the servos go, using dual servos is a bit of a pain. The links from the servo horn to the bellcrank both have to be the same length on both sides or they will be fighting each other. If you can hear the servos buzzing with the front end off the ground they are fighting each other. Btw, I like to keep the radio and servos powered up when centering the linkage so I know nothing is moving around on me. First setup the bellcrank to center, then adjust the subtrim (not regular trim) on your radio to center the servos. Subtrim doesn't affect total servo travel like the regular trim does. With the bellcrank and servos centered them you can adjust the camber, then the toe in after that.

I know you have the dual servo saver linkage, but the Traxxas manual should have diagrams telling you the exact length the linkages should be. They are actually real size too, so you can just match your linkage to the manual. Also, just double check the servo savers to make sure there isn't excessive play in them as that can cause the off center issue you mentioned. If they are a little loose, see what spring you have in it, the black one is stiffer than he chrome spring and will have less play.


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09.26.2011, 09:58 PM

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As far as the servos go, using dual servos is a bit of a pain. The links from the servo horn to the bellcrank both have to be the same length on both sides or they will be fighting each other. If you can hear the servos buzzing with the front end off the ground they are fighting each other. Btw, I like to keep the radio and servos powered up when centering the linkage so I know nothing is moving around on me. First setup the bellcrank to center, then adjust the subtrim (not regular trim) on your radio to center the servos. Subtrim doesn't affect total servo travel like the regular trim does. With the bellcrank and servos centered them you can adjust the camber, then the toe in after that.

I know you have the dual servo saver linkage, but the Traxxas manual should have diagrams telling you the exact length the linkages should be. They are actually real size too, so you can just match your linkage to the manual. Also, just double check the servo savers to make sure there isn't excessive play in them as that can cause the off center issue you mentioned. If they are a little loose, see what spring you have in it, the black one is stiffer than he chrome spring and will have less play.
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you are the man the tip for leaving the radio and servos on when mounting the arms did the trick. The servos seem to center now. It now drives where I point it. Thanks so much I will do some more testing tomorrow if I get some time. I forgot to locktite the pinion gear and kind of freaked out when it popped off. Neil, I also received the long screws. I went ahead and ordered 40mm, 45mm, and 50mm screws. Turns out the 45mm screws are the best,.... (that's what she said). The shock springs no longer touch part of the A-arms and overall just look so much better. As far as mounting the bellcranks, I always just turned on the radio/truck and let the servos center, then turned it off. Then I mounted the steering linkage. I'm sure I will have a few more bugs pop up, but it is reassuring to know that a real answer is just a few clicks away. All of you guys are the best. Remember that one year ago I had never owned an RC vehicle, and eight months ago I was afraid to change a shock tower out. I've come a long way in a short time. I would have been lost without you guys thanks again,
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09.26.2011, 10:52 PM

Some stuff you pick up yourself from trial and error, other times little tips and tricks from others really makes things so much easier. I know I've had more than a few "Duh, why didnt I notice that..." moments myself after reading someones post. If you have any other little issues with the steering reread my last post and go from there. Can't figure it out? Then just ask!

Edit: I wouldnt worry about your current servos drawing enough to need an external BEC. It might be nice insurance, especially if your going to add lots of led's or something. I also think their combined torque is plenty for your truck as long as they're setup properly. Unless the brushless servo's are that much faster or you just really want them, I don't see a reason to upgrade to them.


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09.26.2011, 11:06 PM

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Some stuff you pick up yourself from trial and error, other times little tips and tricks from others really makes things so much easier. I know I've had more than a few "Duh, why didnt I notice that..." moments myself after reading someones post. If you have any other little issues with the steering reread my last post and go from there. Can't figure it out? Then just ask!

Edit: I wouldnt worry about your current servos drawing enough to need an external BEC. It might be nice insurance, especially if your going to add lots of led's or something. I also think their combined torque is plenty for your truck as long as they're setup properly. Unless the brushless servo's are that much faster or you just really want them, I don't see a reason to upgrade to them.
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09.27.2011, 10:18 AM

Ok, guys I have another question. Now that my truck is tracking straight I'm now seeing that the steering is really sensitive. When I'm up to speed the truck will dart with every little input. Is there a way to "calm" some of that down? I'm also thinking about how to do a more permanant way to mount my batteries. I see I could use trays, but I'm looking to do something much better. I found a web site where you can make your own carbon fiber parts and I think this might be an option.
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://w...epBjOMPq8JIP2g
Do any of you guys have any experience this? I wonder if it would be strong enough? Watch the video and tell me what you think. There is a link on the web site. I'm at work and they block anything related to Youtube, but it's on the site under "kits".
   
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Rcm - 09.27.2011, 10:45 AM

RCM MonsterMike makes battery trays and sells them in his store. Carbon fiber is another alternative and yes it will hold up if you do it right. There are good and bad ways to produce items out of CF, and it can get a little bit tetious, and complicated if you have never done it before. We have seen guys in here who have manufactured some pretty good items right in their own garage, but it can be a costly gamble if you have no idea what your doing.


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09.27.2011, 12:27 PM

I think I'm going to give it a try. I think becase the shape is not too complex it should not be too difficult to make the parts. The basic kit is about 50 to 60 dollars US. Not too bad. Should be fun. If I go that route I will be sure to document the whole process.
   
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09.27.2011, 10:05 PM

You can program your Futaba radio for a less "sensitive" feel. The reaction times can be controlled electronically through your radio.


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09.30.2011, 06:29 AM

Thanks George I was hoping for a little explanation of servo speed and servo exponential-function. What do they do and how can they help me?
   
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09.30.2011, 12:57 PM

Very nice turn out, Mike! That truck is beautiful. I really like how you left the other parts silver, they play off the red chassis nicely.

So how do you like the slipperential??? How well does it drive??
   
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09.30.2011, 01:14 PM

I love it. The truck weighs 13lbs with the batteries so I had to add an extra spring so it will hold up to the power and weight. I really have not had the chance to really flog it because I am still working out issues with the servos,the slipperential is highly recommended.
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09.30.2011, 07:45 PM

First real test run is a success. I will not really run it till I get the wheels balanced.
   
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09.30.2011, 11:12 PM

I have the wheels balanced and will test in the morning.
   
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10.01.2011, 09:21 AM

Well I got to take it for another test drive. I handles soooo much better than the stock truck. Even better than my stock truck with the RPM A-arms (with Tru-track). The tires have held so far (knock on wood). No ballooning, very little shake thanks to balancing the tires. The truck tracks straight, but likes to pull to the right under really hard acceleration, but centers when I let off of the throttle. This truck looks so cool moving. I have looked at this thing for so long it's nice to finally see it working. I will try to get some video and post it to Youtube soon.
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10.09.2011, 09:35 AM

Just a little update. As I continue to dial in the suspension. The truck continues to perform flawlessly. It handles so well. The motor/esc/batteries all are staying cool. The Slipperential is bullet proof and running well. The front and rear differential are great, and I can run this thing longer than five minuets without twisting a drive shaft (that was the original problem that caused me to look for a stronger solution). I have not had as much time to drive this truck as I would like. I have started another project that I'm almost done with (Losi 22, I'm waiting for a servo....seems like that's all I do). I might try my hand at racing, but I bought it really just to bash around the neighborhood and old BMX track. I'm still planning to do a video for the truck soon.
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