Schulze - Page 3 - RC-Monster Forums

rhylsadar · 02.15.2008, 04:12 AM

rene of course i appreciate your opinion. i am not at all a schulze fanboy or something. i don't have any feeling at all for any brand actually. all i can do is refering to is my experience and that of many others i read (and i also read a lots of forums also german speaking ones, where maybe german esc are used more often). and sorry dudes but my impression is that there no real indication that schulzes burn more easily or more often than any other esc. i also didn't made that bad experience with their service. so what do you expect from me that i join your elegy about schulze? i can not because my experience is different. i had my 18.97 in use for almost four years with countless batteries through in my savage before it burned up due to my fault. i got a new one with 30% off and this one works for a year or something now without issues. my rc buddies have three 18.97 in use also (savages and a mp 7.5) and they work also properly so far. i read in forums of people after trying different other esc returning back to schulze because the 'issues' of the others. so its simple: there are other experiences as well. but i may repeat myself as well. if i was in the US i would probably also go with others because i clearly see the hazzle of dealing with a company overseas that actually is speaking another language etc.

i also have to admit i do not understand the claim many people seem to have that a company is somehow obliged to send you a brand new controller when you have messed up the old one? this sounds a bit weird to me. of course there may be some cases where the warranty applies but sure not in all cases.

@othello
i have to check this rolling backwards. but just like that i would say it does not go directly into forward but stops a second and then you have to move the throttle again.

but dudes i am not on a mission here and i surely don't want anybody to change his mind. i just don't see that the negative overall judgment is really qualified imo. there may also be a tendency to celebrate burned up schulzes in forums more than others because one really feels bad about it due to the quite high price one has paid for it after all.

bye
rhylsadar

othello · 09:20 AM

A few months ago i had to make the choice as to what ESC would be the right one for my cars. Price was the first thing which drew me away from schulzes and those pics of burned up Schulzes were the second reason. So yes those pics and threads of burned up schulzes do have an influence on opinions (i know MGMs, Castles and so on are also letting out smoke at some point).

Rhylsadar i sure am the last one who wants to argue with you about this subject as i do respect your knowledge you gathered far earlier then i did. But my point of view is why not integrating some sort of over current protection. Those of us wanting the ultimate power may have the option to switch it off at the risk of burning up their ESC. And others could switch it on with the peace of mind that overcurrent would never be an issue. Maybe this solution would be too expensive (i really don't know). I'm just thinking about someone driving a golf cart or whatever and their ESC burns up because his wheels got blocked or similar. I guess that is something you will never see because those esc have more safety features integrated. Truelly our ESCs are not meant for man carrying purposes.

On the other hand some 1:10 scale ESC have the ability to set a max current value as to reduce torque of the motor when driving on a slippery surface. This is one feature i would want to see in a future 1:8 ESC. Maybe this also suffices to protect our high priced ESCs. Our motors can take huge amounts of amperes when starting up due to their low internal resistance. This stresses batteries, drivetrain and results in possibly unwanted wheelies. Driveability could be greatly improved and especially race drivers would benefit a lot of this feature. But i know depending on the components you choose you will influence amp draw too and you can choose how agressive your setup will be by adding more cells. But the freedom you would have to tune your car from a super agressive wheellie machine down to a 540 can tamiya type acceleration seems to be very compelling to me. Maybe this small dream will come true in a not too far distant future.

lutach · 02.15.2008, 09:57 AM

Ok. Got an e-mail from Schulze and this is what they said:

"Hello,

thank you for the photos - but unfortunately you did not take a picture of the important cause of the failure:
Please unmount the controller and the batteries, put them on a table with stretched out cables and a folding rules beside. Take also photos of the power connectors."

Ok, now I need to know what he means by "folding rules beside". This is really impressive as I was planning on buying another 40.160 a few months back and they never replied to my e-mail.

othello · 02.15.2008, 10:06 AM

Guess they want to know how long your cables were -> rules should be reading ruler.

lutach · 02.15.2008, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by othello

Guess they want to know how long your cables were -> rules should be reading ruler.

Ok. Thank you.

Serum · 02.16.2008, 03:19 AM

Yeah, most likely a ruler.

Please report back when they replied to your email.

@rhylsader; It's all good.

It's just that schulze has the habbit to blame to customer to begin with. They never doubt their product.

rhylsadar · 02.16.2008, 05:22 AM

@lutach
did you have a fan on the cooling rips?

@serum
yeah dude no hard feelings. we have just made some different experience. thats all.

bye
rhylsadar

lutach · 02.16.2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum

Yeah, most likely a ruler.

Please report back when they replied to your email.

@rhylsader; It's all good.

It's just that schulze has the habbit to blame to customer to begin with. They never doubt their product.

It's funny, I have a feeling they will blame me. In the pictures I have most of the plugs next to the controller and they couldn't determine the length of the wires and Deans plug http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...43&postcount=3. I also saw in another thread a guy who bought that expensive new charger they have and he is having problems with it. He sent it to Schulze and Schulze said they didn't see anything wrong.

lutach · 02.16.2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhylsadar

@lutach
did you have a fan on the cooling rips?

@serum
yeah dude no hard feelings. we have just made some different experience. thats all.

bye
rhylsadar

The weather was in the 30's and I stopped the vehicle a few times to see if temps were ok. Everything was cold.

Serum · 02.16.2008, 12:36 PM

Quote:

He sent it to Schulze and Schulze said they didn't see anything wrong.

Arh, i guess they won't say that with your controller.. (oo,)

suicideneil · 02.17.2008, 10:16 AM

Lol...

luvsrc · 02.17.2008, 07:31 PM

I have burnt 3 Schluze ESC and had spent or wasted over a thousand dollars but never had burnt esc from MGM,MM and Quark.

lutach · 02.17.2008, 09:36 PM

I will do what Mr. Schulze asked me to do and take it from there. The first video with the Mega, I didn't have any issues. Do you guys think do to the truck rolling backwards had something to do with what happened? I never had anything like this happen to me before.

lutach · 02.26.2008, 07:18 PM

Let me know if this are good for Mr. Schulze.

othello · 02.26.2008, 09:26 PM

The length of the cable from your batterie(s) is missing on your pictures.

This is from the manual i found on their website (translated from german):

. cable length to your motor should be 10cm
. The length to the batterie should never exceed 20cm
-> Exception: Schulze 18.97KWF (max 30cm)

If your cable length do exceed those values, then you must add low ESR capacitors to the ESC.

Hope this helps.