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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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03.08.2008, 04:48 PM
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I like the HV but would want a higher current rating so if I choose to run LV that day (or in a certain vehicle) I can do so without worry of taxing the speed control and heating it up. HV is great and definitely the better way to go, no doubt there, but not everyone has the means to make the switch just yet. New chargers, batteries, motor's, etc. cost money, a decent amount of money. Buying a new controller would be step 1 in upgrading, then the other equipment follows. So while I'm saving to upgrade I want to be able to run my new controller in my current setup. Maybe that's just me though. An idea could be to do two versions, one of which is high amp. (I believe Castle has four versions of their new Hydra, 60, 120, 180, and 240 amps, 50v max)
Anyway, I would still rather see a HV controller purpose built for cars, I just worry about new guys who want the best x product, break it, and want it to be covered even though it was their fault and didn't bother to read any instructions. Grrrr... I remember when I was in Japan and I was helping a guy get his Mad Force running. I pull off the body and see there's no air filter. I said, "Dude, your air filter fell off." to which he replied, "Oh, no it didn't, I took it off because it felt more powerful when it was off.". I was stunned. The thing is, some people just aren't as into the hobby as much as the people on this forum are, for example. And they'll be some of the ones to buy this controller.
Sorry for the rant
Edit: Is the controller going to be 100 amp 12s or 200 amp 12s? 200 amp is great, I was referring to 100 amp when I started my post.
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The components I mentioned above are more then twice as powerful as the Vishay used in the HV110, so in reality if you go with the other you can have a controller put out over 200A. What we are trying to do here is just to get a vote for which system would you like to see the US manufacturer come out with. Current sensing can help out incase someone goes over what the controller is capable of.
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RC-Monster TQ
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03.09.2008, 05:00 AM
I vote 12S
I plan to run 2x 4S Lipo in my 1/8th scale and 1x 4S Lipo in my 1/10th scale
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A 100 amp esc is plenty for either scenerio above seeing how my avg amp draw varies between 35-45amps
One thing to keep in mind is the all mighty ROAR and other sanctioning bodies that currently limit MT's to 4S
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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03.09.2008, 10:46 AM
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I vote 12S
I plan to run 2x 4S Lipo in my 1/8th scale and 1x 4S Lipo in my 1/10th scale
vehicles
A 100 amp esc is plenty for either scenerio above seeing how my avg amp draw varies between 35-45amps
One thing to keep in mind is the all mighty ROAR and other sanctioning bodies that currently limit MT's to 4S 
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I don't like to play by ROAR rules. Specially when a few years ago Trinity had a big fuss about brushless and even put adds in magazines. Look at them now. Also LIPOs, it's funny when some big players in the hobby industry got into lipos ROAR went ahead to approved them. ROAR is like the FIA and F1 racing. I used to love watching Nelson Piquet driving his little 1.3L 1300HP turbo engine car around the tracks. Lets not forget about my all time favorite Group C. I think there should be some new form of sanctioning body that allows new technology to e used. It would prove if a product is worthy for us consumers to use.
Last edited by lutach; 03.09.2008 at 02:44 PM.
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Emaxx- FLM wannabe
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03.09.2008, 07:56 PM
I want to run 9S A123. So I would vote HV.
Why becuase I set my packs up for 3s and 3 of them would be great. If I run 6s 2P then I have more weight then I want.
HV gives you more options it's not that you always need more power sometimes it is better for more run time without simple adding twice the batteries. After all we all know that you can not run 6s1.5P
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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03.11.2008, 06:03 PM
This is a good one on HV:
Found on this site: http://www.zerorc.com/wram-show-2008-report
"Speaking of the T-Rex 450, I chatted with Joe Ford at the Castle Creations booth, who flies his on 12S LiPos. That's not a typo - he uses four 3S 480 mAh batteries wired in series, for a total of 44.4 volts. Using a Castle high voltage speed controller, he draws only 2 amps at full throttle and full collective! He also hinted that controllers with switching BECs were under development, to meet the demands of high-draw digital servos".
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Soldermaster Extraordinaire
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03.11.2008, 10:35 PM
My license plate says it all.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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03.11.2008, 10:39 PM
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That is nice. I guess I'm not the only one who got electrocuted a few times in the past  . I must say that I reather get 220V flowing through my body then 12V and some crazy amount of AMPs!
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BMW M Power!
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03.11.2008, 10:50 PM
I would say HV for all out power and the best running. However, the simplicity of a mild KV motor and a 4S/5S setup properly geared is the best for racing in my opinion...
BL Revo: CF G2R, LMT1940/7, 6S FP 30C Lipos, MMM, Hitec 5955TG
CRT .5: 7075 Ext Chassis, LMT1930/7, FP 25C 3S Lipos, MM
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03.11.2008, 10:56 PM
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That is nice. I guess I'm not the only one who got electrocuted a few times in the past  . I must say that I reather get 220V flowing through my body then 12V and some crazy amount of AMPs!
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My record so far, and one I don't want to break, is 43kV. (Dam you, Nikola!)
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Brushless Heavy Weight....
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03.17.2008, 03:14 PM
I've been hit by 600 Volts @ 25Amps... it did not feel good let me tell you.. my palms had 4 prong marks and was smoking...all of my joints were very tingly..
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03.17.2008, 03:33 PM
Add another to the list waiting for HV!
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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03.17.2008, 03:42 PM
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I've been hit by 600 Volts @ 25Amps... it did not feel good let me tell you.. my palms had 4 prong marks and was smoking...all of my joints were very tingly..
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I felt that tingly twice.
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Something, anything, nothing
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03.18.2008, 03:38 PM
I vote HV, there will be plenty of 6s controllers on the market soon, so something up to 12s with brakes and all will be nice. I have some larger scale conversions I am contemplating and they will need voltage to move.
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RC-Monster Mod
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03.18.2008, 04:10 PM
6S is ok by me so I'll go LV
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Im not dark, Im over ripened! xD
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03.20.2008, 03:57 PM
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