Mamba Monster Vs. Novak Hv Pro

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by killjoyken

My friend and I are both running E-firestorms with the same gearing, but he's running a MM/5700 combo and I'm running a Novak/SS5800 w/sintered rotor. On Orion 3200mah packs we're even, but if we both upgrade to TP 4900mah packs the MM walks away from the Novak like it's standing still. He's got at least 10mph+ on me. I'm guessing it's the ESC. I'll try a MM with the Novak motor and see if it's a closer race.

The ss5800 is rated for 225 watts max. The 3200 packs are good for about 60amps cont, which should be around 400 watts. My guess is that the 5700 can put out more than 400 watts if the battery makes that much difference. The novak motor is smaller...

[killjoyken]

Ah, I forgot about the 225w max rating. It is an old ESC after all...the first brushless system I ever bought. I was running a MM/CCBEC/Medusa 36-50-3300 on 3s, but the added weight and power just made the truck harder to drive and more prone to breaking so I dropped in the Novak. Funny thing is that he passes me on the straights, but I kill him in the corners and get about 10mins more runtime. Sometimes slower is better.

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by killjoyken

Ah, I forgot about the 225w max rating. It is an old ESC after all...the first brushless system I ever bought. I was running a MM/CCBEC/Medusa 36-50-3300 on 3s, but the added weight and power just made the truck harder to drive and more prone to breaking so I dropped in the Novak. Funny thing is that he passes me on the straights, but I kill him in the corners and get about 10mins more runtime. Sometimes slower is better.

Gotta slow down to go fast!

[NovakTwo]

I just noticed this posted to the HV Pro motor page of our website. Usually we do speed tests for internal info, but now we have added them to the page:

HV Pro Speeds in Stock E-Maxx

Even I think we have gone a bit overboard with the disclaimers..... These were all run on our "parking lot" test course.

[Finnster]

The MMM are shipping now, so no reason to rush out and buy an inferior product. There are a ton of motors avail for the MMM too. The cheapie Feigaos, but also Neus, CC Neus as well as the ~Neu quality medusa motors. Medusa is coming out w/ 70mm and 80mm motors soon as well so just wait.

MGMs are really nice and very robust. I have an older one and I like it alot. The smoothness was always fine for me, but the brakes are iffy. I sent it in for updating and the recent firmwares are smoother and more refined. Still a solid pick in escs as well. Stick prgramming for the CC escs sucks as well, just a bit less so.

[hemiblas]

I am a big castle fan, but the novak HV is not looking to bad. With my mtroniks 7XL feigao combo I can only get 37 mph but insane torque. The 7XL is too much for the mtroniks truck esc and it fried it. So until I get my MMM I am dead in the water. Even if I get my MMM doesnt the 7XL heat up a bunch?? The novak motor also looks pretty long which means it should have good torque. After seeing what the 7XL can do I really dont want to go backward in terms of speed and torque.
Also wont the Novak be more efficient than my 7XL which will mean longer runtimes?

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by hemiblas

I am a big castle fan, but the novak HV is not looking to bad. With my mtroniks 7XL feigao combo I can only get 37 mph but insane torque. The 7XL is too much for the mtroniks truck esc and it fried it. So until I get my MMM I am dead in the water. Even if I get my MMM doesnt the 7XL heat up a bunch?? The novak motor also looks pretty long which means it should have good torque. After seeing what the 7XL can do I really dont want to go backward in terms of speed and torque.
Also wont the Novak be more efficient than my 7XL which will mean longer runtimes?

For around 35-40mph the novak system should work fine. I would go with the 5.5 motor and stick with the gearing suggestions that novak offers. It will not be as powerful as the 7xl, but will run cooler, and you will most likely get longer runtimes. I would still go with a MMM and a neu motor, but that is more expensive than the Novak setup. The MMM/motor combo will be the best bet, but it is still a few months off....

[MetalMan]

Originally Posted by killjoyken

My friend and I are both running E-firestorms with the same gearing, but he's running a MM/5700 combo and I'm running a Novak/SS5800 w/sintered rotor. On Orion 3200mah packs we're even, but if we both upgrade to TP 4900mah packs the MM walks away from the Novak like it's standing still. He's got at least 10mph+ on me. I'm guessing it's the ESC. I'll try a MM with the Novak motor and see if it's a closer race.

The SS5800 motor was rated without a load. The actual loaded KV is something like 4300 is I recall correctly.

[hemiblas]

All of the novak motors are rated without load and loaded they seem to go down a bit. Thats the only difficult part in choosing one of them. You really cant calculate top speed like we do in the top speed calculator programs. I had a 5800 and it was an ok setup. I did make the mistake once of overgearing it and the controller puffed out a couple of puffs of white smoke and then the controller literally cooked itself to death. My garage still smells like burnt electronics because of that one.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by NovakTwo

The HV Pro has a built-in 6V/3A BEC

Yeah, but it is a linear BEC. The MMM has a switching BEC -- so you can hook up 6S and draw 3A off the BEC all day long. The Novak BEC will shut down on more than 3S.

I run my Novak all the time on 4s and no external bec.Never had it shut down.

[SpEEdyBL]

I too was able to run my novak on a single 4s and no external bec without issues, but iv'e since used an external bec just to be safe.

[MetalMan]

The HV-Maxx BEC is actually running off of 2s when you have 4s plugged in. The BEC taps into only one of your two packs, so that means it is draining one of your 2s packs faster than the other, which also creates an imbalance if you charge the two packs together.

The MMM BEC, on the other hand, takes the full voltage and regulates it down much more efficiently. This results in NO Lipo pack imbalance.

[mjc168]

Hi All,

I plan to convert my hobao hyper 7 buggy from gp to ep. I have no idea which BL system is suitable for h7 buggy + 4 cell lipo setup (due to my ICE charger can handle upto 4cell).

My budget not more than $300 for a BL system.

With this budget, I can only buy either mamba monster max + feigao BL motor or novak hv pro BL system.

Please share your experience bewteen these two BL system. If possible, please state the reason why you are choosing them.

Thank You.

[tc3_racer_001]

id say save up for a month more, and get the MMM + 2600kv motor.